Comments on: So What’s Plan B? http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/ Mon, 15 Mar 2010 23:33:18 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: JimBobby http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164292 JimBobby Mon, 16 Nov 2009 16:58:22 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164292 <blockquote><a href='#comment-164197' rel="nofollow">Originally Posted By sooey</a>Unfair or not, without China and India being part of the deal, it's all the risk with no overall benefit for North America. I'm very suspicious of the reasoning behind the China/India exemption, quite frankly.</blockquote> Just because my dumbass neighbours don't reduce, re-use and recycle, doesn't mean that it's pointless for me to do my part. 10 years ago, Canada was instrumental in forging the first <a href="http://www.canada.com/news/Canadian+landmine+initiative+saved+thousands+lives+report/2226158/story.html" rel="nofollow">anti-land mine treaty.</a> Big land mine producers, the USA and Russia, did not sign on. Yet, we continued to promote the treaty and even without the worst offenders on board, the treaty saved thousands of lives. Waiting for the other guy to take action is not leadership. JB<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164292','JimBobby'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164292','JimBobby','<blockquote><a href=\'#comment-164197\' rel=\"nofollow\">Originally Posted By sooey<\/a>Unfair or not, without China and India being part of the deal, it\'s all the risk with no overall benefit for North America. I\'m very suspicious of the reasoning behind the China\/India exemption, quite frankly.<\/blockquote>\r\n\r\nJust because my dumbass neighbours don\'t reduce, re-use and recycle, doesn\'t mean that it\'s pointless for me to do my part.\r\n\r\n10 years ago, Canada was instrumental in forging the first <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canada.com\/news\/Canadian+landmine+initiative+saved+thousands+lives+report\/2226158\/story.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">anti-land mine treaty.<\/a> \r\n\r\nBig land mine producers, the USA and Russia, did not sign on. Yet, we continued to promote the treaty and even without the worst offenders on board, the treaty saved thousands of lives.\r\n\r\nWaiting for the other guy to take action is not leadership.\r\n\r\nJB'); return false;">Quote</a></div>

Originally Posted By sooeyUnfair or not, without China and India being part of the deal, it’s all the risk with no overall benefit for North America. I’m very suspicious of the reasoning behind the China/India exemption, quite frankly.

Just because my dumbass neighbours don’t reduce, re-use and recycle, doesn’t mean that it’s pointless for me to do my part.

10 years ago, Canada was instrumental in forging the first anti-land mine treaty.

Big land mine producers, the USA and Russia, did not sign on. Yet, we continued to promote the treaty and even without the worst offenders on board, the treaty saved thousands of lives.

Waiting for the other guy to take action is not leadership.

JB

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]]> By: Undecided Voter http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164265 Undecided Voter Mon, 16 Nov 2009 14:39:56 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164265 You just hit the pollution nail on the head Sooey. Without the biggest polluters on side, this all means noting.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164265','Undecided Voter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164265','Undecided Voter','You just hit the pollution nail on the head Sooey. Without the biggest polluters on side, this all means noting.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> You just hit the pollution nail on the head Sooey. Without the biggest polluters on side, this all means noting.
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]]> By: shmohawk http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164243 shmohawk Mon, 16 Nov 2009 12:31:54 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164243 Easy answer? Harper's planning to shift part of the Canadian economy into Alberta oil-based sunblock products in hopes of raking up big bucks when the fit hits the shan. Another rumoured initiative is to create a new department devoted to chipping off bits of the shrinking Arctic ice cap and marketing it as "rare" bits of historical significance. At least, that's what i heard.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164243','shmohawk'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164243','shmohawk','Easy answer? Harper\'s planning to shift part of the Canadian economy into Alberta oil-based sunblock products in hopes of raking up big bucks when the fit hits the shan. Another rumoured initiative is to create a new department devoted to chipping off bits of the shrinking Arctic ice cap and marketing it as \"rare\" bits of historical significance. At least, that\'s what i heard.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Easy answer? Harper’s planning to shift part of the Canadian economy into Alberta oil-based sunblock products in hopes of raking up big bucks when the fit hits the shan. Another rumoured initiative is to create a new department devoted to chipping off bits of the shrinking Arctic ice cap and marketing it as “rare” bits of historical significance. At least, that’s what i heard.
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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164236 stageleft Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:11:04 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164236 They are politicians first and foremost Throbbin, and that means they are more worried about getting re-elected than anything else -- <a href="http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/14/global-warming-are-britain%E2%80%99s-tv-ads-too-scary-for-children/#comment-164140" rel="nofollow">see my comments</a> in another thread for more on this.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164236','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164236','stageleft','They are politicians first and foremost Throbbin, and that means they are more worried about getting re-elected than anything else -- <a href=\"http:\/\/www.stageleft.info\/2009\/11\/14\/global-warming-are-britain%E2%80%99s-tv-ads-too-scary-for-children\/#comment-164140\" rel=\"nofollow\">see my comments<\/a> in another thread for more on this.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> They are politicians first and foremost Throbbin, and that means they are more worried about getting re-elected than anything else — see my comments in another thread for more on this.
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]]> By: Throbbin http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164235 Throbbin Mon, 16 Nov 2009 03:05:51 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164235 Oh For Fuck Sakes. What is wrong with these assholes?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164235','Throbbin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164235','Throbbin','Oh For Fuck Sakes. What is wrong with these assholes?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Oh For Fuck Sakes. What is wrong with these assholes?
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]]> By: sooey http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164197 sooey Sun, 15 Nov 2009 21:14:09 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164197 Unfair or not, without China and India being part of the deal, it's all the risk with no overall benefit for North America. I'm very suspicious of the reasoning behind the China/India exemption, quite frankly.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164197','sooey'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164197','sooey','Unfair or not, without China and India being part of the deal, it\'s all the risk with no overall benefit for North America. I\'m very suspicious of the reasoning behind the China\/India exemption, quite frankly.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Unfair or not, without China and India being part of the deal, it’s all the risk with no overall benefit for North America. I’m very suspicious of the reasoning behind the China/India exemption, quite frankly.
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]]> By: Peter http://www.stageleft.info/2009/11/15/so-whats-plan-b/comment-page-1/#comment-164192 Peter Sun, 15 Nov 2009 20:46:54 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=7224#comment-164192 Apparently the Brits are working on Plan B. Fear-mongering is out, <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0idZBdQQ88" rel="nofollow">inspiration and sensuousness</a> are in.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('164192','Peter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('164192','Peter','Apparently the Brits are working on Plan B. Fear-mongering is out, <a href=\"http:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=r0idZBdQQ88\" rel=\"nofollow\">inspiration and sensuousness<\/a> are in.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Apparently the Brits are working on Plan B. Fear-mongering is out, inspiration and sensuousness are in.
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