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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141057</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must try that. Maybe then I&#039;d understand what I&#039;m talking abouit.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141057&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141057&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;I must try that. Maybe then I\&#039;d understand what I\&#039;m talking abouit.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must try that. Maybe then I&#8217;d understand what I&#8217;m talking abouit.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('141057','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('141057','balbulican','I must try that. Maybe then I\'d understand what I\'m talking abouit.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: sooey</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141056</link>
		<dc:creator>sooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 16:16:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We don&#039;t.  I just like posting comments clarifying previously posted comments.  It helps me in my understanding of my own arguments.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141056&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141056&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;,&#039;We don\&#039;t.  I just like posting comments clarifying previously posted comments.  It helps me in my understanding of my own arguments.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We don&#8217;t.  I just like posting comments clarifying previously posted comments.  It helps me in my understanding of my own arguments.
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141053</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think the campaign you refer to in your entry was particularly offensive in that it consisted of self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion deciding she shouldn’t be availed of the opportunity to earn a living BECAUSE of her (yes, odious) views.&#8221;</p>
<p>Like I said, I&#8217;m trying to figure out where you think we disagree.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('141053','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('141053','balbulican','\&quot;I think the campaign you refer to in your entry was particularly offensive in that it consisted of self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion deciding she shouldn&acirc;t be availed of the opportunity to earn a living BECAUSE of her (yes, odious) views.\&quot;\r\n\r\nLike I said, I\'m trying to figure out where you think we disagree.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: sooey</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141052</link>
		<dc:creator>sooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 15:49:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought you implied I was claiming she was a victim of some kind.  Having said that, it&#039;s telling that I had to qualify my support for her &quot;right&quot; to appear on public television (and it becomes a right when some censorious types decide it isn&#039;t, I think) by agreeing &quot;she&#039;s odious, but...&quot;.  In a perfect world, defending the right to freedom of speech shouldn&#039;t require such qualification.

Further, I think the campaign you refer to in your entry was particularly offensive in that it consisted of self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion deciding she shouldn&#039;t be availed of the opportunity to earn a living BECAUSE of her (yes, odious) views - pretty much regardless of the venue, topic for discussion, etc.  (And I can&#039;t help but wonder how one gets out of purgatory with the offended arbiters of acceptable commentary - apologize to them?)

Interestingly, the same Net Nannies that go after her sweeping (yes, odious - see above) anti-Muslim-Aboriginal-Chinese views, have never once pointed out her equally sweeping sexism.  To borrow a tactic frequently used by that sort - I guess they agree with her views on women?  I mean, they haven&#039;t said they don&#039;t...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141052&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141052&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;,&#039;I thought you implied I was claiming she was a victim of some kind.  Having said that, it\&#039;s telling that I had to qualify my support for her \&quot;right\&quot; to appear on public television (and it becomes a right when some censorious types decide it isn\&#039;t, I think) by agreeing \&quot;she\&#039;s odious, but...\&quot;.  In a perfect world, defending the right to freedom of speech shouldn\&#039;t require such qualification.\r\n\r\nFurther, I think the campaign you refer to in your entry was particularly offensive in that it consisted of self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion deciding she shouldn\&#039;t be availed of the opportunity to earn a living BECAUSE of her (yes, odious) views - pretty much regardless of the venue, topic for discussion, etc.  (And I can\&#039;t help but wonder how one gets out of purgatory with the offended arbiters of acceptable commentary - apologize to them?)\r\n\r\nInterestingly, the same Net Nannies that go after her sweeping (yes, odious - see above) anti-Muslim-Aboriginal-Chinese views, have never once pointed out her equally sweeping sexism.  To borrow a tactic frequently used by that sort - I guess they agree with her views on women?  I mean, they haven\&#039;t said they don\&#039;t...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought you implied I was claiming she was a victim of some kind.  Having said that, it&#8217;s telling that I had to qualify my support for her &#8220;right&#8221; to appear on public television (and it becomes a right when some censorious types decide it isn&#8217;t, I think) by agreeing &#8220;she&#8217;s odious, but&#8230;&#8221;.  In a perfect world, defending the right to freedom of speech shouldn&#8217;t require such qualification.</p>
<p>Further, I think the campaign you refer to in your entry was particularly offensive in that it consisted of self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion deciding she shouldn&#8217;t be availed of the opportunity to earn a living BECAUSE of her (yes, odious) views &#8211; pretty much regardless of the venue, topic for discussion, etc.  (And I can&#8217;t help but wonder how one gets out of purgatory with the offended arbiters of acceptable commentary &#8211; apologize to them?)</p>
<p>Interestingly, the same Net Nannies that go after her sweeping (yes, odious &#8211; see above) anti-Muslim-Aboriginal-Chinese views, have never once pointed out her equally sweeping sexism.  To borrow a tactic frequently used by that sort &#8211; I guess they agree with her views on women?  I mean, they haven&#8217;t said they don&#8217;t&#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('141052','sooey'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('141052','sooey','I thought you implied I was claiming she was a victim of some kind.  Having said that, it\'s telling that I had to qualify my support for her \&quot;right\&quot; to appear on public television (and it becomes a right when some censorious types decide it isn\'t, I think) by agreeing \&quot;she\'s odious, but...\&quot;.  In a perfect world, defending the right to freedom of speech shouldn\'t require such qualification.\r\n\r\nFurther, I think the campaign you refer to in your entry was particularly offensive in that it consisted of self-appointed arbiters of acceptable opinion deciding she shouldn\'t be availed of the opportunity to earn a living BECAUSE of her (yes, odious) views - pretty much regardless of the venue, topic for discussion, etc.  (And I can\'t help but wonder how one gets out of purgatory with the offended arbiters of acceptable commentary - apologize to them?)\r\n\r\nInterestingly, the same Net Nannies that go after her sweeping (yes, odious - see above) anti-Muslim-Aboriginal-Chinese views, have never once pointed out her equally sweeping sexism.  To borrow a tactic frequently used by that sort - I guess they agree with her views on women?  I mean, they haven\'t said they don\'t...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141020</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 12:40:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess I&#039;m confused about what we&#039;re disagreeing about.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141020&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141020&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;I guess I\&#039;m confused about what we\&#039;re disagreeing about.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess I&#8217;m confused about what we&#8217;re disagreeing about.
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		<title>By: sooey</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141007</link>
		<dc:creator>sooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:47:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh yes.  I recognize you as a fellow traveller in many ways.  Not that I (Feminist, lefty, woman) come anywhere close to your tolerance for free speech.

Still, I&#039;m working on it.  Defending Shaidle&#039;s right to appear on public television is pretty minor stuff, but I&#039;m pretty minor stuff, too, and offensive to somebody, I&#039;m sure.

And, as we all know, no one enjoys being offended more than the offended.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141007&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141007&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;,&#039;Oh yes.  I recognize you as a fellow traveller in many ways.  Not that I (Feminist, lefty, woman) come anywhere close to your tolerance for free speech.\r\n\r\nStill, I\&#039;m working on it.  Defending Shaidle\&#039;s right to appear on public television is pretty minor stuff, but I\&#039;m pretty minor stuff, too, and offensive to somebody, I\&#039;m sure.\r\n\r\nAnd, as we all know, no one enjoys being offended more than the offended.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh yes.  I recognize you as a fellow traveller in many ways.  Not that I (Feminist, lefty, woman) come anywhere close to your tolerance for free speech.</p>
<p>Still, I&#8217;m working on it.  Defending Shaidle&#8217;s right to appear on public television is pretty minor stuff, but I&#8217;m pretty minor stuff, too, and offensive to somebody, I&#8217;m sure.</p>
<p>And, as we all know, no one enjoys being offended more than the offended.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('141007','sooey'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('141007','sooey','Oh yes.  I recognize you as a fellow traveller in many ways.  Not that I (Feminist, lefty, woman) come anywhere close to your tolerance for free speech.\r\n\r\nStill, I\'m working on it.  Defending Shaidle\'s right to appear on public television is pretty minor stuff, but I\'m pretty minor stuff, too, and offensive to somebody, I\'m sure.\r\n\r\nAnd, as we all know, no one enjoys being offended more than the offended.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141004</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Feb 2009 00:09:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You did note that this corner of the &quot;internet mob&quot; endorsed her right to appear, as well as her right to say whatever she wants, without censorship?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141004&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141004&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;You did note that this corner of the \&quot;internet mob\&quot; endorsed her right to appear, as well as her right to say whatever she wants, without censorship?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You did note that this corner of the &#8220;internet mob&#8221; endorsed her right to appear, as well as her right to say whatever she wants, without censorship?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('141004','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('141004','balbulican','You did note that this corner of the \&quot;internet mob\&quot; endorsed her right to appear, as well as her right to say whatever she wants, without censorship?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: sooey</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-141002</link>
		<dc:creator>sooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:52:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Interesting take on my post.  Very righteous.  But I happen to feel the same way about Kathy Shaidle, her beliefs are indeed appalling, nor is she a victim.  She&#039;s one of the lucky few allowed to air them on public television, in fact.  But I stand by Internet mobs (and this particular one is very pot/kettle in my opinion) scaring me a lot more than Kathy Shaidle does.  To each his own fears, I guess.  It&#039;s just that I doubt Warren Kinsella agrees with me on much, either.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;141002&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;141002&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;,&#039;Interesting take on my post.  Very righteous.  But I happen to feel the same way about Kathy Shaidle, her beliefs are indeed appalling, nor is she a victim.  She\&#039;s one of the lucky few allowed to air them on public television, in fact.  But I stand by Internet mobs (and this particular one is very pot\/kettle in my opinion) scaring me a lot more than Kathy Shaidle does.  To each his own fears, I guess.  It\&#039;s just that I doubt Warren Kinsella agrees with me on much, either.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting take on my post.  Very righteous.  But I happen to feel the same way about Kathy Shaidle, her beliefs are indeed appalling, nor is she a victim.  She&#8217;s one of the lucky few allowed to air them on public television, in fact.  But I stand by Internet mobs (and this particular one is very pot/kettle in my opinion) scaring me a lot more than Kathy Shaidle does.  To each his own fears, I guess.  It&#8217;s just that I doubt Warren Kinsella agrees with me on much, either.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('141002','sooey'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('141002','sooey','Interesting take on my post.  Very righteous.  But I happen to feel the same way about Kathy Shaidle, her beliefs are indeed appalling, nor is she a victim.  She\'s one of the lucky few allowed to air them on public television, in fact.  But I stand by Internet mobs (and this particular one is very pot\/kettle in my opinion) scaring me a lot more than Kathy Shaidle does.  To each his own fears, I guess.  It\'s just that I doubt Warren Kinsella agrees with me on much, either.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-2/#comment-140999</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 23:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;In what way are the more typical CBC/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?&quot;

The question, as posed, is kind of impossible to answer. But in the particular case under discussion, the panelist were a cut above Kathy Shaidle because they didn&#039;t make appallingly stupid observations, or use embarassingly flawed non-logic to make their points. 

&quot;They scare me - not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.&quot;

I guess you&#039;ve read the quotes from Shaidle compiled by Kinsella, et al. Her &quot;beliefs&quot; - about blacks, Muslims, immigrants, orientals, First Nations - are appalling. Sorry, I can&#039;t see her as a victim here. I am delighted that she got to appear, and delighted that she fell on her face. Does that make me a - sob - bad person?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;140999&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;140999&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;\&quot;In what way are the more typical CBC\/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe question, as posed, is kind of impossible to answer. But in the particular case under discussion, the panelist were a cut above Kathy Shaidle because they didn\&#039;t make appallingly stupid observations, or use embarassingly flawed non-logic to make their points. \r\n\r\n\&quot;They scare me - not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.\&quot;\r\n\r\nI guess you\&#039;ve read the quotes from Shaidle compiled by Kinsella, et al. Her \&quot;beliefs\&quot; - about blacks, Muslims, immigrants, orientals, First Nations - are appalling. Sorry, I can\&#039;t see her as a victim here. I am delighted that she got to appear, and delighted that she fell on her face. Does that make me a - sob - bad person?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;In what way are the more typical CBC/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?&#8221;</p>
<p>The question, as posed, is kind of impossible to answer. But in the particular case under discussion, the panelist were a cut above Kathy Shaidle because they didn&#8217;t make appallingly stupid observations, or use embarassingly flawed non-logic to make their points. </p>
<p>&#8220;They scare me &#8211; not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.&#8221;</p>
<p>I guess you&#8217;ve read the quotes from Shaidle compiled by Kinsella, et al. Her &#8220;beliefs&#8221; &#8211; about blacks, Muslims, immigrants, orientals, First Nations &#8211; are appalling. Sorry, I can&#8217;t see her as a victim here. I am delighted that she got to appear, and delighted that she fell on her face. Does that make me a &#8211; sob &#8211; bad person?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('140999','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('140999','balbulican','\&quot;In what way are the more typical CBC\/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?\&quot;\r\n\r\nThe question, as posed, is kind of impossible to answer. But in the particular case under discussion, the panelist were a cut above Kathy Shaidle because they didn\'t make appallingly stupid observations, or use embarassingly flawed non-logic to make their points. \r\n\r\n\&quot;They scare me - not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.\&quot;\r\n\r\nI guess you\'ve read the quotes from Shaidle compiled by Kinsella, et al. Her \&quot;beliefs\&quot; - about blacks, Muslims, immigrants, orientals, First Nations - are appalling. Sorry, I can\'t see her as a victim here. I am delighted that she got to appear, and delighted that she fell on her face. Does that make me a - sob - bad person?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: sooey</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-140998</link>
		<dc:creator>sooey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 22:38:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In what way are the more typical CBC/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?  This is what I find so compelling - that they see themselves as the arbiters of public interest and that so many bloggers who identify themselves as progressives are in lockstep with them.  They scare me - not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;140998&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;140998&#039;,&#039;sooey&#039;,&#039;In what way are the more typical CBC\/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?  This is what I find so compelling - that they see themselves as the arbiters of public interest and that so many bloggers who identify themselves as progressives are in lockstep with them.  They scare me - not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In what way are the more typical CBC/TVO panelists (i.e. big L and C political insiders and lobbyists promoting themselves, their businesses and their politics) the cut above Kathy Shaidle that they seem to think they are?  This is what I find so compelling &#8211; that they see themselves as the arbiters of public interest and that so many bloggers who identify themselves as progressives are in lockstep with them.  They scare me &#8211; not Kathy Shaidle, who is, afterall, just stating her beliefs.
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		<title>By: MW</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-140991</link>
		<dc:creator>MW</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 19:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re Kathy&#039;s unintentional self-description of herself... It advances a theory of mine that sometimes as writers, what we write is smarter and more true than we ever intended or thought.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;140991&#039;,&#039;MW&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;140991&#039;,&#039;MW&#039;,&#039;Re Kathy\&#039;s unintentional self-description of herself... It advances a theory of mine that sometimes as writers, what we write is smarter and more true than we ever intended or thought.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Re Kathy&#8217;s unintentional self-description of herself&#8230; It advances a theory of mine that sometimes as writers, what we write is smarter and more true than we ever intended or thought.
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		<title>By: stageleft</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-140966</link>
		<dc:creator>stageleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 13:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&#039;#comment-140951&#039; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@balbulican&lt;/a&gt; - the poor dear doesn&#039;t seem to be able to wrap her head around the simple idea that if you hang your thoughts, ideas, and personal bias out on the cloths line of the Internet someone is going to take exception to them.... that&#039;s neither the persecution nor the suppression she likes to advertise it as - but hey, she&#039;s gotta make a living off of something.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;140966&#039;,&#039;stageleft&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;140966&#039;,&#039;stageleft&#039;,&#039;&lt;a href=\&#039;#comment-140951\&#039; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@balbulican&lt;\/a&gt; - the poor dear doesn\&#039;t seem to be able to wrap her head around the simple idea that if you hang your thoughts, ideas, and personal bias out on the cloths line of the Internet someone is going to take exception to them.... that\&#039;s neither the persecution nor the suppression she likes to advertise it as - but hey, she\&#039;s gotta make a living off of something.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='#comment-140951' rel="nofollow">@balbulican</a> &#8211; the poor dear doesn&#8217;t seem to be able to wrap her head around the simple idea that if you hang your thoughts, ideas, and personal bias out on the cloths line of the Internet someone is going to take exception to them&#8230;. that&#8217;s neither the persecution nor the suppression she likes to advertise it as &#8211; but hey, she&#8217;s gotta make a living off of something.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('140966','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('140966','stageleft','&lt;a href=\'#comment-140951\' rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;@balbulican&lt;\/a&gt; - the poor dear doesn\'t seem to be able to wrap her head around the simple idea that if you hang your thoughts, ideas, and personal bias out on the cloths line of the Internet someone is going to take exception to them.... that\'s neither the persecution nor the suppression she likes to advertise it as - but hey, she\'s gotta make a living off of something.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Kevin</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-140964</link>
		<dc:creator>Kevin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Feb 2009 05:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Balb</p>
<p>&#8220;It was an interesting quote for two reasons: the accuracy of her self-description, and her suggestion that others “don’t often extend [her] the same courtesy”.&#8221;  Ha!  Thamks for the smile.</p>
<p>@SL:  nice!
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('140964','Kevin'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('140964','Kevin','@Balb\r\n\r\n\&quot;It was an interesting quote for two reasons: the accuracy of her self-description, and her suggestion that others &acirc;don&acirc;t often extend &amp;#91;her&amp;#93; the same courtesy&acirc;.\&quot;  Ha!  Thamks for the smile.\r\n\r\n@SL:  nice!'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Five feet of slurry</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-140957</link>
		<dc:creator>Five feet of slurry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 22:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not much use for the profane/insane Shaidle&#039;s of the world but gotta love how she recognizes this as on opportunity for folk to ring her donate button...about as subtle as a cudgel on a melon.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;140957&#039;,&#039;Five feet of slurry&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;140957&#039;,&#039;Five feet of slurry&#039;,&#039;Not much use for the profane\/insane Shaidle\&#039;s of the world but gotta love how she recognizes this as on opportunity for folk to ring her donate button...about as subtle as a cudgel on a melon.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not much use for the profane/insane Shaidle&#8217;s of the world but gotta love how she recognizes this as on opportunity for folk to ring her donate button&#8230;about as subtle as a cudgel on a melon.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('140957','Five feet of slurry'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('140957','Five feet of slurry','Not much use for the profane\/insane Shaidle\'s of the world but gotta love how she recognizes this as on opportunity for folk to ring her donate button...about as subtle as a cudgel on a melon.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: JimBobby</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2009/02/12/they-dont-think-really-they-dont/comment-page-1/#comment-140956</link>
		<dc:creator>JimBobby</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Feb 2009 21:27:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Whooee! Paiken&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=3&amp;action=blog&amp;subaction=viewpost&amp;blog_id=43&amp;post_id=9462&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;blog&lt;/a&gt;&#039;s got 46 comments. Some of Shaidle&#039;s champions are not only supporting her right to a platform for these ideas but they&#039;re actually providing &quot;rationale&quot; for Shaidle&#039;s Islamo-hate. Seems like some people think she&#039;s got good reasons to hate everybuddy like she does.

JB&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;140956&#039;,&#039;JimBobby&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;140956&#039;,&#039;JimBobby&#039;,&#039;Whooee! Paiken\&#039;s &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.tvo.org\/cfmx\/tvoorg\/theagenda\/index.cfm?page_id=3&amp;action=blog&amp;subaction=viewpost&amp;blog_id=43&amp;post_id=9462\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;blog&lt;\/a&gt;\&#039;s got 46 comments. Some of Shaidle\&#039;s champions are not only supporting her right to a platform for these ideas but they\&#039;re actually providing \&quot;rationale\&quot; for Shaidle\&#039;s Islamo-hate. Seems like some people think she\&#039;s got good reasons to hate everybuddy like she does.\r\n\r\nJB&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Whooee! Paiken&#8217;s <a href="http://www.tvo.org/cfmx/tvoorg/theagenda/index.cfm?page_id=3&amp;action=blog&amp;subaction=viewpost&amp;blog_id=43&amp;post_id=9462" rel="nofollow">blog</a>&#8217;s got 46 comments. Some of Shaidle&#8217;s champions are not only supporting her right to a platform for these ideas but they&#8217;re actually providing &#8220;rationale&#8221; for Shaidle&#8217;s Islamo-hate. Seems like some people think she&#8217;s got good reasons to hate everybuddy like she does.</p>
<p>JB
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('140956','JimBobby'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('140956','JimBobby','Whooee! Paiken\'s &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.tvo.org\/cfmx\/tvoorg\/theagenda\/index.cfm?page_id=3&amp;amp;action=blog&amp;amp;subaction=viewpost&amp;amp;blog_id=43&amp;amp;post_id=9462\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;blog&lt;\/a&gt;\'s got 46 comments. Some of Shaidle\'s champions are not only supporting her right to a platform for these ideas but they\'re actually providing \&quot;rationale\&quot; for Shaidle\'s Islamo-hate. Seems like some people think she\'s got good reasons to hate everybuddy like she does.\r\n\r\nJB'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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