Comments on: What’s The Difference Between Warsaw Ghetto & Gaza? 70 Years. http://www.stageleft.info/2009/01/14/whats-the-difference-between-warsaw-ghetto-gaza-70-years/ Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:08:59 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: balbulican http://www.stageleft.info/2009/01/14/whats-the-difference-between-warsaw-ghetto-gaza-70-years/comment-page-1/#comment-139739 balbulican Sat, 17 Jan 2009 13:44:37 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5100#comment-139739 Not "missed" it, I don't think. Your point is that many Jews, both inside and outside Israel, do not buy into the Israeli strategy. I agree with that observation, and with their persepctive, to which I add my own: that perpetuating the cycle of retribution simply will not work. But I did think the silly hyperbole quoted in your title needed to be addressed.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139739','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139739','balbulican','Not \"missed\" it, I don\'t think. Your point is that many Jews, both inside and outside Israel, do not buy into the Israeli strategy. I agree with that observation, and with their persepctive, to which I add my own: that perpetuating the cycle of retribution simply will not work.\r\n\r\nBut I did think the silly hyperbole quoted in your title needed to be addressed.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Not “missed” it, I don’t think. Your point is that many Jews, both inside and outside Israel, do not buy into the Israeli strategy. I agree with that observation, and with their persepctive, to which I add my own: that perpetuating the cycle of retribution simply will not work.

But I did think the silly hyperbole quoted in your title needed to be addressed.

Reply – Quote
]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2009/01/14/whats-the-difference-between-warsaw-ghetto-gaza-70-years/comment-page-1/#comment-139730 stageleft Fri, 16 Jan 2009 22:18:29 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5100#comment-139730 Me thinks, b, that you may have missed the point. <a href='#comment-139713' rel="nofollow">@Peter</a> - Do you play chess?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139730','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139730','stageleft','Me thinks, b, that you may have missed the point.\n\n<a href=\'#comment-139713\' rel=\"nofollow\">@Peter<\/a> - Do you play chess?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Me thinks, b, that you may have missed the point.

@Peter – Do you play chess?

Reply – Quote
]]> By: Peter http://www.stageleft.info/2009/01/14/whats-the-difference-between-warsaw-ghetto-gaza-70-years/comment-page-1/#comment-139713 Peter Fri, 16 Jan 2009 09:26:39 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5100#comment-139713 <i>They want a Greater Israel to eventually include Gaza and the West Bank.</i> In which case they have made some very puzzling strategic retreats in recent years.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139713','Peter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139713','Peter','<i>They want a Greater Israel to eventually include Gaza and the West Bank.<\/i>\r\n\r\nIn which case they have made some very puzzling strategic retreats in recent years.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> They want a Greater Israel to eventually include Gaza and the West Bank.

In which case they have made some very puzzling strategic retreats in recent years.

Reply – Quote
]]> By: balbulican http://www.stageleft.info/2009/01/14/whats-the-difference-between-warsaw-ghetto-gaza-70-years/comment-page-1/#comment-139711 balbulican Fri, 16 Jan 2009 01:27:03 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5100#comment-139711 Well, I can think of a few differences. a) Have the Israelis walled in Gaza? Are they denying exit to those seeking to flee? b) Is the murder of the entire Palestinian population a primary, avowed, strategic goal of Israel? c) Is the Israeli invasion of Gaza part of a long-term program of Middle Eastern conquest aimed at continental domination? d) Were the Jews of Warsaw attacking German civilians? I think Israel's actions in Gaza are both self-defeating and excessive. But I think comparing Israel's action to that of the Nazi occupiers of Poland is just not right. <div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139711','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139711','balbulican','Well, I can think of a few differences. \r\n\r\na) Have the Israelis walled in Gaza? Are they denying exit to those seeking to flee?\r\nb) Is the murder of the entire Palestinian population a primary, avowed, strategic goal of Israel?\r\nc) Is the Israeli invasion of Gaza part of a long-term program of Middle Eastern conquest aimed at continental domination?\r\nd) Were the Jews of Warsaw attacking German civilians?\r\n\r\nI think Israel\'s actions in Gaza are both self-defeating and excessive. But I think comparing Israel\'s action to that of the Nazi occupiers of Poland is just not right. '); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well, I can think of a few differences.

a) Have the Israelis walled in Gaza? Are they denying exit to those seeking to flee?
b) Is the murder of the entire Palestinian population a primary, avowed, strategic goal of Israel?
c) Is the Israeli invasion of Gaza part of a long-term program of Middle Eastern conquest aimed at continental domination?
d) Were the Jews of Warsaw attacking German civilians?

I think Israel’s actions in Gaza are both self-defeating and excessive. But I think comparing Israel’s action to that of the Nazi occupiers of Poland is just not right.

Reply – Quote
]]> By: Skinny Dipper http://www.stageleft.info/2009/01/14/whats-the-difference-between-warsaw-ghetto-gaza-70-years/comment-page-1/#comment-139694 Skinny Dipper Thu, 15 Jan 2009 03:18:04 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5100#comment-139694 I have seen the Warsaw and Terezin Ghettos. What was the Warsaw Ghetto is now a neighbourhood blended in with its surroundings. The Terezin Ghetto in the Czech Republic is an old multipointed star shaped town fortress where there was no chance to escape. One would have been shot trying to leave. People were unable to bring in resources other than what they carried on their first and last trip into the ghetto. When the Israeli army left Gaza a couple of years ago, it tightened its control around Gaza by land and sea. It gained the tacit approval of Egypt to close Gaza on all sides. The purpose of the total blockade of Gaza wasn't meant to protect Israel from armed militants coming from the Gaza strip. Israel imposed a blockade of depravity. The Israelis in power do not want a two-state solution. They want a Greater Israel to eventually include Gaza and the West Bank. They do not want a peace agreement with the Palestinians. They want total control over Eretz Palestine. Why would the peoples of the ghettos recognize the legitimacy of the masters when the masters won't recognize the existance of the peoples? Why would anyone want to recognize a master?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139694','Skinny Dipper'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139694','Skinny Dipper','I have seen the Warsaw and Terezin Ghettos. What was the Warsaw Ghetto is now a neighbourhood blended in with its surroundings. The Terezin Ghetto in the Czech Republic is an old multipointed star shaped town fortress where there was no chance to escape. One would have been shot trying to leave. People were unable to bring in resources other than what they carried on their first and last trip into the ghetto.\r\n\r\nWhen the Israeli army left Gaza a couple of years ago, it tightened its control around Gaza by land and sea. It gained the tacit approval of Egypt to close Gaza on all sides. The purpose of the total blockade of Gaza wasn\'t meant to protect Israel from armed militants coming from the Gaza strip. Israel imposed a blockade of depravity. The Israelis in power do not want a two-state solution. They want a Greater Israel to eventually include Gaza and the West Bank. They do not want a peace agreement with the Palestinians. They want total control over Eretz Palestine.\r\n\r\nWhy would the peoples of the ghettos recognize the legitimacy of the masters when the masters won\'t recognize the existance of the peoples? Why would anyone want to recognize a master?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I have seen the Warsaw and Terezin Ghettos. What was the Warsaw Ghetto is now a neighbourhood blended in with its surroundings. The Terezin Ghetto in the Czech Republic is an old multipointed star shaped town fortress where there was no chance to escape. One would have been shot trying to leave. People were unable to bring in resources other than what they carried on their first and last trip into the ghetto.

When the Israeli army left Gaza a couple of years ago, it tightened its control around Gaza by land and sea. It gained the tacit approval of Egypt to close Gaza on all sides. The purpose of the total blockade of Gaza wasn’t meant to protect Israel from armed militants coming from the Gaza strip. Israel imposed a blockade of depravity. The Israelis in power do not want a two-state solution. They want a Greater Israel to eventually include Gaza and the West Bank. They do not want a peace agreement with the Palestinians. They want total control over Eretz Palestine.

Why would the peoples of the ghettos recognize the legitimacy of the masters when the masters won’t recognize the existance of the peoples? Why would anyone want to recognize a master?

Reply – Quote
]]>