More Horrific Violence from the “Religion of Love”
Stinging from an acrimonious divorce, a man plotting revenge against his ex-wife dressed up like Santa, went to his former in-laws’ Christmas Eve party and opened fire on the guests. Bruce Pardo, 45, had no criminal record and no history of violence, police said, but he was angry following last week’s settlement of his divorce after a marriage that lasted barely a year.
The massacre began when an eight-year-old girl answered Pardo’s knock at the door. Pardo, carrying what appeared to be a large present, pulled out a handgun and shot her in the face, then began firing indiscriminately as about 25 partygoers tried to flee, police said. A 16-year-old girl was shot in the back and a 20-year-old woman broke her ankle when she escaped by jumping from a second-storey window. Those two and the eight-year-old, remained in hospital Christmas Day. All were expected to recover. The gift-wrapped box Pardo was carrying actually contained a pressurized homemade device he used to spray a liquid that quickly sent the house up in flames…
Pardo served regularly as an usher at evening mass at Holy Redeemer Catholic Church in Montrose, the Los Angeles Times newspaper reported.
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Well, we all know that the Bible specifically established that men shall have dominion over women, that their menstrual functions are unclean, that they may not act as ministers of God, that they are subject to their husband’s will…is it any wonder that this divinely condone misogyny erupts in such acts of violence? From witch burnings to the Montreal massacre by Roman Catholic Marc Lepine to abortion clinic bombers, Christianity’s legacy of violence strikes down yet more victims.
Now, the willingly blind, deluded apologists for Christianity will, of course, argue that this is an act of psychotic violence by a lone lunatic. However, I note that today, among the so-called “moderate” Christians we hear so much about, not a single Church leader has condemned this horrible act of violence. Nor is the MSM highlighting the Christian connection with this story; and of course, the Christian bloggers are completely silent on the killings.
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A note to the unwary: if you actually think this post was critical of Christianity, you are, with all due respect, too stupid to be reading this site. Do not humiliate yourself by posting a comment. We will be pleased to direct you to other sites carefully selected to match your intellectual capacity - the kind where every act of violence committed by someone unlike the blogger is triumphantly brandished as evidence of the essential inferiority of their race, religion or culture.
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Final comment on the actual story: it also wins the Bunker 2008 Award for Understatement of the Year.
“It was not an amicable divorce,” police Lt. Pat Buchanan said.
Merry Christmas, Balb.
RG
Thanks, RG. Same to you. Welcome back to Canada. And ditch that guy who’s cowriting your blog. He’s not very good.
I wonder if Muslims Against Sharia or the boys at rightorwrongradio will get it…
I doubt it.
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hey, stooge… i noticed in a hit in my sitemeter stats from your little interweb bundle of fuzzy-bunny love.
you guys just never give up, do ya?
those black helicopters still after you too?
merry xmas & a happy new year. you should really try to get out more in 2009.
neo
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Merry Christmas to you too, Neo.
I’m not too clear on the relevance of the link you provided – you’re infested with an illiterate troll, and you’re suggesting it has something to do with us?
Ummm…you don’t actually read us very much, do you? That’s not exactly our style.
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heck stooge… i don’t have to read you… you come to me… trying to muddy up my comment threads with demonstrably false assertions and misleading statements.
whaddaya call that again? damn, it’s right on the tip of my tongue.
hey… remember this little tilt we had?
“maybe you should read a little slower stooge… matt maupin’s family was just notified that his remains have been identified by dna testing.”
“but do feel free to sympathize with the bloodthirsty fuckers who blew his brains out and videotaped it for the whole world to see.”
the best one though, was where you accused me of “blaming the victim”… and he turned out to be a rapist.
so tell me about ol’ gamil… er, marc… being a catholic.
never heard that one before.
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Let me get this straight. An usher from some Catholic church in suburban California commits a heinous violent crime and you see that as something the worldwide Christian community needs to address because it all stems from biblical enjoinders to have “dominion” over those women with their unclean menstruations? And you are huffy if folks think you are being critical of Christianity?
Balb, balb, you are better than this.
I was going to suggest that the white community is at fault here, for not reining in its extremists. Where, oh where, are the moderate white leaders speaking out against this kind of insane, fanatical violence? Are they cowed by the white extremists in their midst?
Peter, normally you get the point right fast. What happened this time?
Satire is truly dead, but you made balb’s point with a flourish.
Facts are irrelevant when they don’t fit the narrative.
Syncro
Sure it is satire but simpleminded satire critical of those who do shout out that a large part of Islam is ‘not a religion of peace’.
Typical barking dog drivel.
Neo: ah. You haven’t yet figured out that Stageleft and balbulican are two separate folks. We are. As for Marc Lepine: he was baptized Catholic. His Muslim father abandoned the family when he was seven, and he was raised by his mother. Never heard that before? I can’t really say I’m surprised, given that you seem unable to distinguish between Stageleft and me.
Peter:
Oh, dear, oh dear. Peter…YOU’RE better than this. Read it again. Then read the admonition.
I will do you the favour of assuming your mind is a bit slow today due to a surfeit of turkey. You’re normally one of the quicker folks on the uptake.
Syncro: Please reread the note to the unwary, and take it to heart. No offense.
balbulican: maybe you should re-read what you wrote. Yapping and comprehension are two different thangs.
Syncro
It’s okay, Syncro. It confused at least one reader a lot smarter than you. Don’t feel too bad.
Seriously, though – neo, synchro, canuckguy- pay attention – this isn’t the kind of blog you’re used to. The folks here – lefties and righties -tend to be a little more articulate and a bit smarter than yours. Just a heads up…if you wanna troll, try to be a bit funnier. Otherwise you kinda get ignored.
Go for it. Good luck.
bal
I stand confused. On the other hand I might mention that neither Marc Lepine or Neo are practicing Catholics….as a matter of fact that shitbag Levine is stone dead and Neo is an avout atheist.
Wild rhetoric may be sexy in certain circles but in the real world it’s kinda like a Mack truck or a short cock……it’s all good around town but no good on the highway.
Syncro
“I stand confused.”
You do indeed. The evidence of that is in your second paragraph, where you make exactly the point I’m making, apparently under the impression that the post is to be taken at face value. All of which adds to the amusement of watching you fumbling through trying to get it. As you so aptly put it at neo’s, “These stupid fucks are fun in the most pathetic sort of way.” Heh. You sure are.
Bal
So I’m left enough to admit my faults…howz about you?
Syncro
I admit my faults all the time, Sync. Which ones in particular did you you want me to confess to?
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hmmm… the son of a muslim father is baptised roman catholic?
that’s sure not the way it worked back in the dark ages when i was rc. you’ve got a source for that factoid, right?
while you’re at it… you could fill in the details on the gharbi-lepine marriage.
i’m always willing to learn new & amazing facts… even from the bert & ernie of the lunatic left.
to be honest… i’m actually a little surprised you’re not trying to tie in department store santas to the nra.
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Bal
O.K. Connecting a mass murder suicide to a specific mantra to suit your leftist agenda kinda bugs me a bit. Your lack of logical evidence to support your crappy thesis is a bit of a red flag. The fact that you took Neo to task over a religious issue when anybody who knows Neo is aware that he is anti-religion.
These are some of your faults.
Syncro
“The son of a muslim father is baptised roman catholic? that’s sure not the way it worked back in the dark ages when i was rc.”
Well, assuming you were born sometime after the council of Nicea, that is, is fact, exactly the way it worked back when you were an RC. The religion of a child’s parents is irrelevant. A child baptized into the Church is a Roman Catholic.
“You’ve got a source for that factoid, right?”
Weston, Greg; and Aubin, Jack (1990-02-07). “The making of a massacre: The Marc Lepine story Part I”, The Ottawa Citizen. It’s also in Wikipedia, not that that’s terribly reliable.
“I’m always willing to learn new & amazing facts.”
Good for you.
I’m not sure you understand what a “fault” is, Synchro: “kinda bugging” you would not normally be characterized as a “fault”, per se.
As for my “crappy thesis”: heh. I’m afraid you don’t actually seem to understand what my “thesis” in this post is.
However, I do snore.
Bal
Sorry to hear that…the snoring must be hard on your partner considering you appear to be a collosal bore.
About your thesis. As near as I can figure…menstruation is nasty, beat them bitches just because, blow some shit up when they try to get an abortion, and generally act like a prick.
is that how you roll?
Syncro
I think I’ve stumbled onto the Olympic Point-Missing Trials.
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“Weston, Greg; and Aubin, Jack (1990-02-07). “The making of a massacre: The Marc Lepine story Part I”, The Ottawa Citizen.”
gee stooge… you forgot to give us the scoop on the marriage & the baptism. you got it at hand, you could just cut and paste it here.
i love data.
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If the Nazis were in power, some dumbfuck revisionist would be trying to claim Lepine was Jewish. The fact is, of course, that Lepine was raised Roman Catholic and lost all contact with his father when he was a small child. But for the nutcases, Islam is genetic.
Meanwhile, I note with some amusement that Neo thinks I’ve been sending trolls his way.
Neo, sh*t attracts flies, if I can be blunt. No one actually sends the flies.
Wow….I mean like wow. There are some very shallow bloggers out there. Thanks for the post Balbulican. I read part of this story in the news but not all of it. It was too much for my senses. But I am really glad you wrote it in the context that you did. I don’t know if there was an intentional bitter edge to your writing or whether I imposed my own in the reading. I particularly liked your question – just where is the condemnation from the Christian hierarchy and powers that be for his behaviour. Or even an out pouring of Christian ‘love’ for the poor man’s confused and tortured soul?
I freely admit that I am not the sharpest tool in the shed but I compared this story to the stories I have read about the killings of young women by their fathers and brothers for behaviour not acceptable under their religious “laws” or “customs.”
In neither case is a religion involved – these are acts of extreme violence against another person or persons. Except sometimes it seems like if you are non-Christian or a believer in a non-Christian faith and commit a violent act – then all the fingers(Christian and non-Christian people who are not of other “foreign” faith) point to the religion (or lack of Christian faith) and every person of that faith is now suspect of the same crime. Come on!
I dunno maybe it’s easier of more fun for some folk to view life through a shallow looking pool to find reason for violence? Does it make the murder/massacre less relevant or more relevant?
Sync: not sure whether you’re actually too dim to get the point, or simply pretending not to. If the former, Wideye has summed it up in her second and third paragraphs. If the latter, I salute your willingness to feign ignorance so persistently in a public space.
Neo: I’m not really sure where you’re getting confused. Marc Lepine was a baptized Catholic, not a Muslim. You can squirm all you like, but I suggest you do your own digging if you doubt Wiki and the Ottawa Citizen. I’m not sure why you feel you need to; you’re mistaken, but obsessing about it suggests that you’ve missed the point of the post as well. (Surprise, surprise…not sure what I expect from a blogger for whom the apogee of wit is “old commie-pinko fartbag”…)
“I think I’ve stumbled onto the Olympic Point-Missing Trials.”
Select one of the options, JJ: are they demonstrating…
a) Serious stupidity?
b) Wilful incomprehension?
c) So much time spent regurgitating unexamined lies that support a shallow ideological view that they’ve actually lost the capacity for critical thought?
Same question used to occur to me about Scenty, but I always leaned towards (a). These two – not sure.
Jesus, I guess I picked the wrong two schmucks who wouldn’t get it.
Still, its always good to point and laugh at people who don’t get it to demonstrate their stupidity. I won’t be as kind Balb, its is abundantly clear that sychro and neo are dumb as a bag of hammers.
“Sychro and neo are dumb as a bag of hammers.”
Syncro is a pretty dim bulb, agreed. I had never been to his site before, and won’t be back. No evidence of neural function there.
Neo, I think, is another matter. We need a name for that kind of site – blogs that consist of little more than:
- links to and excerpts from other like-minded blogs;
- single-sentence commentaries that amount, essentially to “Duh…FUCK YEAH!”;
- a kind of rudimentary, puerile, vulgar aggression, heavy on bravado and light on grammar or style, reminiscent of the most unpleasant kid you can remember from high school (think Biff in Back to the Future, but fouler mouthed and without the endearing qualities);
- above all, an absolute absence of actual discussion or exchange of ideas – the blogger resolutely acts as a troll in his own comments section, shutting down anything resembling adult talk.
I’m glad these folks are blogging – it’s better for society than having them out there beating up seniors for pocket change or actually engaged in real-world social or political change. But it does make one wonder why they bother. They’re not looking for or offering insight, so it’s not about the subtance: there’s no style or wit, so it’s not the pleasure of writing. As near as I can figure, they draw some kind of validation for a marginal world view from the exercise. Sentinel and Right Girl, two seriously troubled people, clearly draw comfort from the fact that there are people out there willing to take them seriously, and maybe that’s what keeps bloggers like Neo going. Other theories, anyone?
Neo is a borderline psychopath. There’s really very little more to be said.
Is there an “all of the above” option?
Just based on this thread, “Neo” demonstrates a capacity for *something* that might pass as “critical thought” in his world, if not the real one, so for him I’d say (b) and (c) with a bullet. The other guy is either in the late stage of some brain-wasting disease or just (a).
balb:
Ok, maybe the problem was a surfeit of turkey. I can’t think of anything else I’ve been surfeiting on of late. Having re-read your admonition carefully several times and having considered all the options, I’ve figured out you were just doing a take-off on the Royal Canadian Air Farce and you were playing Mike from Camrose. Am I close?
You know, when you anti-clerical secularists try to do humour about religion you remind me of a Swedish TV comedy show I once saw that featured guys pricking the fake breast-balloons of blond bimbos. The audience was in stitches.
At first this was amusing watching those 2 rail against your Chstianophobia.
However, now they have been going on for so long, and have been so persistently determined to expose the left as…God knows what, that I’m actually beginning to wonder if *I* missed something.
(Glances around nervously….)
PS – Nice post Balb.
“when you anti-clerical secularists try to do humour about religion…’
Peter. Dude. No. This post was not anticlerical, and it was not about religion. As Dawg noted, I could have written the same post about “white people”. Or Californians. It’s about the tendency of ideologues (racial, political, religious) to seize on crazy behaviour by a deviant group member and brandish it as typical.
Sigh. I HATE explaining, but clearly I was a bit too oblique this time out.
“Sigh. I HATE explaining, but clearly I was a bit too oblique this time out.”
Not at all, balb, most of us got it right away (and it was splendid, btw). You even added a disclaimer (note to the unwary) at the end: I don’t see how you could have been any clearer.
Besides, anyone who’s too thick to figure the post out probably won’t understand the explanation either.
You’re very kind, JJ, but Peter is one of the Good Conservatives, and usually gets it immediately. He’s so swift I actually thought he was Occam for a bit there, but now I think not.
Very odd, I agree. He’s been over to my place defending the mass dispossession of Israeli Bedouins by the Israeli state (the state needs the land for a quarter-million Jewish immigrants to the South Negev) by saying that immigration is legal in Israel! And further on he apparently confuses Israeli Bedouins with Arabs in other countries.
I had no idea turkey was so toxic. Maybe we’ll get the old Peter back in the New Year.
Ouch.
Well, turkey is exceptionally rich in purines, which increase the frequency and intensity of gout attacks. Maybe he’s sitting there in a plush leather chair in the mansion library, port in one hand and cigar in the other, foot up and in a bandage like Jiggs, cursing the help.
Wideye, you stated: “I have read about the killings of young women by their fathers and brothers for behaviour not acceptable under their religious “laws” or “customs.” In neither case is a religion involved ”
Yep, you just proved that you’re “not the sharpest tool in the shed”
Canukguy…..:
People kill people….. and then hide behind excuses.
At least I’m sharper than you so nanna, nanna, boo, boo to you!
:OP PTHTththththththth
So EyesWideShut, honour killings really don’t exist except as excuses in your world. You don’t accept that they are well known in the fundamentalist Islam world?
PS: made a pun with your name, thought I should point that out since you admit you are “not the sharpest tool in the shed”
BWAH WAH WAH
BTW: Happy New Year
Sorry to wade in this late, but…
Why did Balbulican refer to ‘Christianity’ as ‘Religion of Peace’? That is an error.
I didn’t, Xanth. I referred to it as the Religion of Love.
Christ is, however, often referred to as the “Prince of Peace”.
Geeze Can-ukky-guy (Thats a pun on your name too – just for you!)
What would it take for someone to convince you to do the honourable thing with regards to your want for posting stupid comments?
Heh. Wideye, show a little sympathy. Canuckguy has already hit rock bottom. A troll cannot possibly sink any lower than pleading with Canadian Sentinel to be allowed to comment - AND being refused!
@balbulican – Of course, you are right! My bad!
Balbul. you leftist chihuahua, I plead with Sentinel to remove ‘comment moderation’ so I can watch the fireworks when you get on. It amuses me.
WildEyes, well when I see comments that are based on ‘lack of knowledge’ or ‘blind ideology, I can’t help but to rise to the bait and sort out the poor ignoranus out. (oh, look, another clever pun, two in fact)
Drat, another misprint, leave out the last ‘out’
The attempt to compare this tragedy to other tragedies that are clearly motivated and supported by the expectations and cultural norms in the local community sickens me. There is no support in the local community for the acts committed by Pardo. There is plenty of support in the other communities for the murders this post attempts to satirize.
You deliberately obfuscate or you are stupid or you are acting like a 10 year old saying look at how clever I can be with words.
Sorry, rroe. You didn’t understand the point of the post.