Comments on: Political Parties Throw Money At Big Business – http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/ Sat, 20 Mar 2010 01:13:34 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139108 stageleft Mon, 22 Dec 2008 00:50:56 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139108 Ooops --- my comment didn't include Mike --- should have said that shouldn't I?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139108','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139108','stageleft','Ooops --- my comment didn\'t include Mike --- should have said that shouldn\'t I?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Ooops — my comment didn’t include Mike — should have said that shouldn’t I?
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]]> By: Mike http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139105 Mike Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:52:47 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139105 Rather my point SL<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139105','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139105','Mike','Rather my point SL'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Rather my point SL
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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139104 stageleft Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:44:46 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139104 The merits of the big handout to big business get discussed, and the dead people get forgotten - are you guys federal politicians?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139104','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139104','stageleft','The merits of the big handout to big business get discussed, and the dead people get forgotten - are you guys federal politicians?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> The merits of the big handout to big business get discussed, and the dead people get forgotten – are you guys federal politicians?
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]]> By: Chrystal Ocean http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139101 Chrystal Ocean Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:16:33 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139101 Jan, my point is that, in this changing climate - both environmentally and metaphorically -, preserving the current number of <i>auto sector</i> jobs makes no sense. Experts have said that the height of auto ownership has passed. There is an increasing push to provide more and better public transportation, to replace or reduce the number of single occupancy vehicles. Just b/c someone says auto sector jobs must be reduced, since as many of those jobs aren't going to be needed, doesn't mean she's saying jobs, per se, should be reduced. That's where retraining comes in, hopefully for jobs that are in demand and will be for some time to come. PS. My name is Chrystal Ocean, not 'Chris'. The latter was the pseudonym used for a WISE project; it gives me the shivers each time I see that name in print.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139101','Chrystal Ocean'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139101','Chrystal Ocean','Jan, my point is that, in this changing climate - both environmentally and metaphorically -, preserving the current number of <i>auto sector<\/i> jobs makes no sense. Experts have said that the height of auto ownership has passed. There is an increasing push to provide more and better public transportation, to replace or reduce the number of single occupancy vehicles. \r\n\r\nJust b\/c someone says auto sector jobs must be reduced, since as many of those jobs aren\'t going to be needed, doesn\'t mean she\'s saying jobs, per se, should be reduced. That\'s where retraining comes in, hopefully for jobs that are in demand and will be for some time to come.\r\n\r\nPS. My name is Chrystal Ocean, not \'Chris\'. The latter was the pseudonym used for a WISE project; it gives me the shivers each time I see that name in print.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Jan, my point is that, in this changing climate – both environmentally and metaphorically -, preserving the current number of auto sector jobs makes no sense. Experts have said that the height of auto ownership has passed. There is an increasing push to provide more and better public transportation, to replace or reduce the number of single occupancy vehicles.

Just b/c someone says auto sector jobs must be reduced, since as many of those jobs aren’t going to be needed, doesn’t mean she’s saying jobs, per se, should be reduced. That’s where retraining comes in, hopefully for jobs that are in demand and will be for some time to come.

PS. My name is Chrystal Ocean, not ‘Chris’. The latter was the pseudonym used for a WISE project; it gives me the shivers each time I see that name in print.

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]]> By: nastyboy http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139099 nastyboy Sun, 21 Dec 2008 22:10:33 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139099 I've always wondered why Layton's indignation over "corporate welfare" doesn't include industries with unions that donate money to the NDP.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139099','nastyboy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139099','nastyboy','I\'ve always wondered why Layton\'s indignation over \"corporate welfare\" doesn\'t include industries with unions that donate money to the NDP.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I’ve always wondered why Layton’s indignation over “corporate welfare” doesn’t include industries with unions that donate money to the NDP.
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]]> By: janfromthebruce http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139098 janfromthebruce Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:55:34 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139098 Actually, Chris it is my understanding that the 3 auto producers are still top producers. I agree with you that they have been badly managed and ignored consumer "wants" such as better fuel efficiency, smaller cars, and or electric car production. But it is also my understanding that they actually produce some of these lines. That said, I would prefer a Canadian made company that the CAW could produce their vehicles for rather than an American owned and poorly operated company. I would like them to also produce streetcars, trains and so on for mass transportation. People who do not live in cities cannot actually work without a car or some form of convenient transportation. Also forms of transportation are not viable do to weather conditions in our Northern chimes. I find class warfare quite disgusting in all it forms - particularly when it is amongst ourselves. Elites, they just all the way to the bank.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139098','janfromthebruce'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139098','janfromthebruce','Actually, Chris it is my understanding that the 3 auto producers are still top producers. I agree with you that they have been badly managed and ignored consumer \"wants\" such as better fuel efficiency, smaller cars, and or electric car production. But it is also my understanding that they actually produce some of these lines. \r\nThat said, I would prefer a Canadian made company that the CAW could produce their vehicles for rather than an American owned and poorly operated company. I would like them to also produce streetcars, trains and so on for mass transportation. \r\nPeople who do not live in cities cannot actually work without a car or some form of convenient transportation. Also forms of transportation are not viable do to weather conditions in our Northern chimes. \r\nI find class warfare quite disgusting in all it forms - particularly when it is amongst ourselves. Elites, they just all the way to the bank.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Actually, Chris it is my understanding that the 3 auto producers are still top producers. I agree with you that they have been badly managed and ignored consumer “wants” such as better fuel efficiency, smaller cars, and or electric car production. But it is also my understanding that they actually produce some of these lines.
That said, I would prefer a Canadian made company that the CAW could produce their vehicles for rather than an American owned and poorly operated company. I would like them to also produce streetcars, trains and so on for mass transportation.
People who do not live in cities cannot actually work without a car or some form of convenient transportation. Also forms of transportation are not viable do to weather conditions in our Northern chimes.
I find class warfare quite disgusting in all it forms – particularly when it is amongst ourselves. Elites, they just all the way to the bank.
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]]> By: Chrystal Ocean http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139096 Chrystal Ocean Sun, 21 Dec 2008 21:04:10 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139096 It's hilarious Buzz Hargrove talking about the number of auto sector jobs in Canada having to be retained at its current level. People don't want to buy the vehicles that the Wee Three are producing. Is that factored into the "we must save auto jobs" mantra? 'Course not.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139096','Chrystal Ocean'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139096','Chrystal Ocean','It\'s hilarious Buzz Hargrove talking about the number of auto sector jobs in Canada having to be retained at its current level. \r\n\r\nPeople don\'t want to buy the vehicles that the Wee Three are producing. Is that factored into the \"we must save auto jobs\" mantra? \'Course not.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It’s hilarious Buzz Hargrove talking about the number of auto sector jobs in Canada having to be retained at its current level.

People don’t want to buy the vehicles that the Wee Three are producing. Is that factored into the “we must save auto jobs” mantra? ‘Course not.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/21/political-parties-throw-money-at-big-business/comment-page-1/#comment-139095 Mike Sun, 21 Dec 2008 20:20:32 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5063#comment-139095 Remember, its important that auto companies that make crap no one wants and are managed horrendously be given billions in tax payer money, in order to keep <strike>voters</strike> worker making crap no one wants. It bribery of one group for votes with money stolen from the rest of us. Maybe the homeless ought to get a union... Disgusting.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('139095','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('139095','Mike','Remember, its important that auto companies that make crap no one wants and are managed horrendously be given billions in tax payer money, in order to keep <strike>voters<\/strike> worker making crap no one wants.\r\n\r\nIt bribery of one group for votes with money stolen from the rest of us. \r\n\r\nMaybe the homeless ought to get a union...\r\n\r\nDisgusting.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Remember, its important that auto companies that make crap no one wants and are managed horrendously be given billions in tax payer money, in order to keep voters worker making crap no one wants.

It bribery of one group for votes with money stolen from the rest of us.

Maybe the homeless ought to get a union…

Disgusting.

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