Comments on: Get Off Your Ass Larry – We’re Not Happy http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:00:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Peter http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138914 Peter Thu, 11 Dec 2008 12:17:42 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138914 Day 2, so far the carpooling plans are holding out, and some of our 'rainy day' tasks are being looked at again, to see who can do what near home. Fortunately I live downtown, which opens my options regarding where I can work from (the office is in the West end). Still have to trudge out to a central location for a drive to work and a later shift than usual (I'm usually there by now!). By the way, I was one of those smucks who got hit with the 'we'll cap your pay at what was negotiated and ban strikes for the duration of your contract.' Made me think the govt was working in slightly less than good faith, especially in their refusal to remove language that allows managers to demand unpaid overtime, and refusing to change harassment language to something that makes more sense (heh, again not about money). Or their insistence of finishing negotiations before the economic update.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138914','Peter'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138914','Peter','Day 2, so far the carpooling plans are holding out, and some of our \'rainy day\' tasks are being looked at again, to see who can do what near home. Fortunately I live downtown, which opens my options regarding where I can work from (the office is in the West end). Still have to trudge out to a central location for a drive to work and a later shift than usual (I\'m usually there by now!).\n\nBy the way, I was one of those smucks who got hit with the \'we\'ll cap your pay at what was negotiated and ban strikes for the duration of your contract.\' Made me think the govt was working in slightly less than good faith, especially in their refusal to remove language that allows managers to demand unpaid overtime, and refusing to change harassment language to something that makes more sense (heh, again not about money). Or their insistence of finishing negotiations before the economic update.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Day 2, so far the carpooling plans are holding out, and some of our ‘rainy day’ tasks are being looked at again, to see who can do what near home. Fortunately I live downtown, which opens my options regarding where I can work from (the office is in the West end). Still have to trudge out to a central location for a drive to work and a later shift than usual (I’m usually there by now!).

By the way, I was one of those smucks who got hit with the ‘we’ll cap your pay at what was negotiated and ban strikes for the duration of your contract.’ Made me think the govt was working in slightly less than good faith, especially in their refusal to remove language that allows managers to demand unpaid overtime, and refusing to change harassment language to something that makes more sense (heh, again not about money). Or their insistence of finishing negotiations before the economic update.

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]]> By: Candace http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138911 Candace Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:13:20 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138911 That being said, as a 100% transit user (no car or motorbike), I'd be totally screwed if ETS went on strike. Thank God I live in anti-union Alberta. My sympathy to those relying on transit to get to work, buy groceries, get to school, get through life, etc.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138911','Candace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138911','Candace','That being said, as a 100% transit user (no car or motorbike), I\'d be totally screwed if ETS went on strike. Thank God I live in anti-union Alberta. My sympathy to those relying on transit to get to work, buy groceries, get to school, get through life, etc.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> That being said, as a 100% transit user (no car or motorbike), I’d be totally screwed if ETS went on strike. Thank God I live in anti-union Alberta. My sympathy to those relying on transit to get to work, buy groceries, get to school, get through life, etc.
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]]> By: Candace http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138910 Candace Thu, 11 Dec 2008 08:12:03 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138910 Wait a minute. Wasn't there a big to-do a few weeks ago (feels like years) because the CPC feds wanted to outlaw strikes in the federal gov't (after just signing a 3 or 4 year deal with the union, so basically sounding important but saying buggar all)? Yet now, there is a strike (civic vs federal) and it's pi$$ing you off? I'm so confused.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138910','Candace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138910','Candace','Wait a minute. Wasn\'t there a big to-do a few weeks ago (feels like years) because the CPC feds wanted to outlaw strikes in the federal gov\'t (after just signing a 3 or 4 year deal with the union, so basically sounding important but saying buggar all)?\r\n\r\nYet now, there is a strike (civic vs federal) and it\'s pi$$ing you off?\r\n\r\nI\'m so confused.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Wait a minute. Wasn’t there a big to-do a few weeks ago (feels like years) because the CPC feds wanted to outlaw strikes in the federal gov’t (after just signing a 3 or 4 year deal with the union, so basically sounding important but saying buggar all)?

Yet now, there is a strike (civic vs federal) and it’s pi$$ing you off?

I’m so confused.

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]]> By: Mike http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138892 Mike Wed, 10 Dec 2008 15:09:16 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138892 I don't disagree SL, but a 10.5% wage increase? I haven't seen that kind of increase in years, without changing jobs. Its a two way street. O'Brien is a first-class boob to be sure, but the union needs to soften their demands a bit too. With the economy melting around us, why are so many politicos trying to use the crisis for their own gain?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138892','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138892','Mike','I don\'t disagree SL, but a 10.5% wage increase? I haven\'t seen that kind of increase in years, without changing jobs.\r\n\r\nIts a two way street. O\'Brien is a first-class boob to be sure, but the union needs to soften their demands a bit too.\r\n\r\nWith the economy melting around us, why are so many politicos trying to use the crisis for their own gain?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I don’t disagree SL, but a 10.5% wage increase? I haven’t seen that kind of increase in years, without changing jobs.

Its a two way street. O’Brien is a first-class boob to be sure, but the union needs to soften their demands a bit too.

With the economy melting around us, why are so many politicos trying to use the crisis for their own gain?

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]]> By: Ron Good http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138882 Ron Good Wed, 10 Dec 2008 06:26:05 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138882 <a href='#comment-138877' rel="nofollow">@rww</a> - With respect, then: if the union doesn't state a position, what's yours? I'm not baiting you or trying to place you in an uncomfortable position but how would you defend the public sector unions? What <i>should</i> he have been saying? Blog about that.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138882','Ron Good'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138882','Ron Good','<a href=\'#comment-138877\' rel=\"nofollow\">@rww<\/a> - With respect, then: if the union doesn\'t state a position, what\'s yours? I\'m not baiting you or trying to place you in an uncomfortable position but how would you defend the public sector unions?\r\n\r\nWhat <i>should<\/i> he have been saying? Blog about that.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> @rww – With respect, then: if the union doesn’t state a position, what’s yours? I’m not baiting you or trying to place you in an uncomfortable position but how would you defend the public sector unions?

What should he have been saying? Blog about that.

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]]> By: sassy http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138879 sassy Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:54:44 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138879 Larry O'Brien - When is his next court date?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138879','sassy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138879','sassy','Larry O\'Brien - When is his next court date?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Larry O’Brien – When is his next court date?
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]]> By: rww http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/09/get-off-your-ass-larry-were-not-happy/comment-page-1/#comment-138877 rww Wed, 10 Dec 2008 04:05:01 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=5042#comment-138877 And the union has got to get its PR act together. When you're a public sector union public opinion is very important. I saw the union president interviewed on CTV and he came across as very arrogant and not caring about the public. I do not believe that he is, is but that is the impression he presented. As he was interviewed I was thinking of all the things he should have been saying but wasn't. So I decided I would present the union position on my blog so I set out to find it. None of the news articles I found on the web presented it very well so I went to the ATU Looal 279 and there was absolutely nothing there about the negotiations or the unions position. No press releases - nothing. So I have nothing to blog about and an opportunity to present their side of the story has been lost.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138877','rww'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138877','rww','And the union has got to get its PR act together. When you\'re a public sector union public opinion is very important. I saw the union president interviewed on CTV and he came across as very arrogant and not caring about the public. I do not believe that he is, is but that is the impression he presented. As he was interviewed I was thinking of all the things he should have been saying but wasn\'t.\r\n\r\nSo I decided I would present the union position on my blog so I set out to find it. None of the news articles I found on the web presented it very well so I went to the ATU Looal 279 and there was absolutely nothing there about the negotiations or the unions position. No press releases - nothing.\r\n\r\nSo I have nothing to blog about and an opportunity to present their side of the story has been lost.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> And the union has got to get its PR act together. When you’re a public sector union public opinion is very important. I saw the union president interviewed on CTV and he came across as very arrogant and not caring about the public. I do not believe that he is, is but that is the impression he presented. As he was interviewed I was thinking of all the things he should have been saying but wasn’t.

So I decided I would present the union position on my blog so I set out to find it. None of the news articles I found on the web presented it very well so I went to the ATU Looal 279 and there was absolutely nothing there about the negotiations or the unions position. No press releases – nothing.

So I have nothing to blog about and an opportunity to present their side of the story has been lost.

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