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		<title>By: Treehugger</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138637</link>
		<dc:creator>Treehugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 17:42:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;I think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign.
What will the coalition do then?&quot;

Tracey, interesting observation.  I think he will try to prorogue but doubt he will resign; it&#039;s not in his DNA as I think one commentator on TV put it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138637&#039;,&#039;Treehugger&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138637&#039;,&#039;Treehugger&#039;,&#039;\&quot;I think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign.\r\nWhat will the coalition do then?\&quot;\r\n\r\nTracey, interesting observation.  I think he will try to prorogue but doubt he will resign; it\&#039;s not in his DNA as I think one commentator on TV put it.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;I think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign.<br />
What will the coalition do then?&#8221;</p>
<p>Tracey, interesting observation.  I think he will try to prorogue but doubt he will resign; it&#8217;s not in his DNA as I think one commentator on TV put it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138637','Treehugger'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138637','Treehugger','\&quot;I think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign.\r\nWhat will the coalition do then?\&quot;\r\n\r\nTracey, interesting observation.  I think he will try to prorogue but doubt he will resign; it\'s not in his DNA as I think one commentator on TV put it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: tracy</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138636</link>
		<dc:creator>tracy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 16:38:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Can&#039;t see an election solve anything if the three parties remain three parties.
If the Lib/NDP run together then we may get a majority either way.

I think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign. 
What will the coalition do then?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138636&#039;,&#039;tracy&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138636&#039;,&#039;tracy&#039;,&#039;Can\&#039;t see an election solve anything if the three parties remain three parties.\r\nIf the Lib\/NDP run together then we may get a majority either way.\r\n\r\nI think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign. \r\nWhat will the coalition do then?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Can&#8217;t see an election solve anything if the three parties remain three parties.<br />
If the Lib/NDP run together then we may get a majority either way.</p>
<p>I think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign.<br />
What will the coalition do then?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138636','tracy'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138636','tracy','Can\'t see an election solve anything if the three parties remain three parties.\r\nIf the Lib\/NDP run together then we may get a majority either way.\r\n\r\nI think Harper will Prorogue parliament and then resign. \r\nWhat will the coalition do then?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ron Good</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138635</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 15:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Treehugger and KevinG: my apologies. Probably a combination of a late night and something I ate in the 60s ;-)&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138635&#039;,&#039;Ron Good&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138635&#039;,&#039;Ron Good&#039;,&#039;Treehugger and KevinG: my apologies. Probably a combination of a late night and something I ate in the 60s ;-)&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treehugger and KevinG: my apologies. Probably a combination of a late night and something I ate in the 60s <img src='http://www.stageleft.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138635','Ron Good'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138635','Ron Good','Treehugger and KevinG: my apologies. Probably a combination of a late night and something I ate in the 60s ;-)'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: KevinG</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138634</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 14:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Theyâ€™re not in such disarray that they canâ€™t agree on a coalition, set a schedule for a change in leadership, campaign for that coalition quite effectively *and* take Harper to task.</em></p>
<p>Fair point. There might be a difference though if they had to put together an effective campaign for the electorate.  For one thing, it doesn&#8217;t take any money to form a coalition.</p>
<p><em>But all technical arguments aside, I think most folks actually donâ€™t vote for their local rep in federal elections &#8230; </em></p>
<p>This is an interesting point.   By interesting I mean, I agree.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138634','KevinG'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138634','KevinG','&lt;em&gt;They&acirc;€™re not in such disarray that they can&acirc;€™t agree on a coalition, set a schedule for a change in leadership, campaign for that coalition quite effectively *and* take Harper to task.&lt;\/em&gt;\r\n\r\nFair point. There might be a difference though if they had to put together an effective campaign for the electorate.  For one thing, it doesn\'t take any money to form a coalition.\r\n\r\n&lt;em&gt;But all technical arguments aside, I think most folks actually don&acirc;€™t vote for their local rep in federal elections ... &lt;\/em&gt;\r\n\r\nThis is an interesting point.   By interesting I mean, I agree.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Treehugger</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138633</link>
		<dc:creator>Treehugger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 13:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;With respect, this is interesting, from Treehugger: &#8221;</p>
<p>Ron, you have the wrong attribution.  It was KevinG that made that comment.</p>
<p>Dirk said, &#8220;Nonsensical coalition,wtfâ€¦ your going to have to explain that one.&#8221;</p>
<p>I did explain it, read the whole paragraph.  One man&#8217;s cooperation is another&#8217;s corruption.  Also, I have stated no &#8220;fear&#8221; of the Bloc but have only pointed to the absurdity of it being part of the government.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138633','Treehugger'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138633','Treehugger','\&quot;With respect, this is interesting, from Treehugger: \&quot;\r\n\r\nRon, you have the wrong attribution.  It was KevinG that made that comment.\r\n\r\nDirk said, \&quot;Nonsensical coalition,wtf&acirc;€&brvbar; your going to have to explain that one.\&quot;\r\n\r\nI did explain it, read the whole paragraph.  One man\'s cooperation is another\'s corruption.  Also, I have stated no \&quot;fear\&quot; of the Bloc but have only pointed to the absurdity of it being part of the government.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ron Good</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138630</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 06:25:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With respect, this is interesting, from Treehugger: &#8220;<i>The Liberals are in disarray and between leaders and would not be able to campaign effectively let alone win enough sets to take Harper to task. The NDPâ€™s policy positions limit their seat potential to about where it is now â€” same with the Bloc.</i>&#8221;</p>
<p>They&#8217;re not in such disarray that they can&#8217;t agree on a coalition, set a schedule for a change in leadership, campaign for that coalition quite effectively *and* take Harper to task.</p>
<p>They&#8217;re managing all that while I write this, are they not?</p>
<p>You&#8217;re exactly right about the NDP and Bloc policy positions, though, <i>at best</i>.</p>
<p>From Dirk: &#8220;<i>now I would agree if you said how childish Harper was being, but to tar the other three partyâ€™s with the same brush is well,cynical</i></p>
<p>Cynical maybe, but not incorrect. Look on it as a game of <a href="http://www.pagat.com/beating/cheat.html" rel="nofollow">Cheat</a> or <a href="http://www.oppapers.com/essays/Bang-Drum-Slowly-Tegwar/114852" rel="nofollow">Tegwar</a>, and think about how people act when they think they&#8217;re winning.</p>
<p>From James: &#8220;<i>There really is no need for an election. We donâ€™t elect governments, we elect parliaments</i>.&#8217;</p>
<p>Technically you&#8217;re correct&#8211;and I visited your blog and I certainly respect your position and thoughtfulness. </p>
<p>But all technical arguments aside, I think most folks actually don&#8217;t vote for their local rep in federal elections; they vote the party or the leader, or both, and the way they register that preference is to elect the candidate who wears that mantle. That&#8217;s maybe not how it <i>should</i> be, but I think it&#8217;s pretty much how it really is.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138630','Ron Good'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138630','Ron Good','With respect, this is interesting, from Treehugger: \&quot;&lt;i&gt;The Liberals are in disarray and between leaders and would not be able to campaign effectively let alone win enough sets to take Harper to task. The NDP&acirc;€™s policy positions limit their seat potential to about where it is now &acirc;€” same with the Bloc.&lt;\/i&gt;\&quot;\r\n\r\nThey\'re not in such disarray that they can\'t agree on a coalition, set a schedule for a change in leadership, campaign for that coalition quite effectively *and* take Harper to task.\r\n\r\nThey\'re managing all that while I write this, are they not?\r\n\r\nYou\'re exactly right about the NDP and Bloc policy positions, though, &lt;i&gt;at best&lt;\/i&gt;.\r\n\r\nFrom Dirk: \&quot;&lt;i&gt;now I would agree if you said how childish Harper was being, but to tar the other three party&acirc;€™s with the same brush is well,cynical&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nCynical maybe, but not incorrect. Look on it as a game of &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.pagat.com\/beating\/cheat.html\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Cheat&lt;\/a&gt; or &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.oppapers.com\/essays\/Bang-Drum-Slowly-Tegwar\/114852\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Tegwar&lt;\/a&gt;, and think about how people act when they think they\'re winning.\r\n\r\nFrom James: \&quot;&lt;i&gt;There really is no need for an election. We don&acirc;€™t elect governments, we elect parliaments&lt;\/i&gt;.\'\r\n\r\nTechnically you\'re correct--and I visited your blog and I certainly respect your position and thoughtfulness. \r\n\r\nBut all technical arguments aside, I think most folks actually don\'t vote for their local rep in federal elections; they vote the party or the leader, or both, and the way they register that preference is to elect the candidate who wears that mantle. That\'s maybe not how it &lt;i&gt;should&lt;\/i&gt; be, but I think it\'s pretty much how it really is.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: dirk</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138628</link>
		<dc:creator>dirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 04:13:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TH said&#8230;&#8221;The insanity that is our current Parliament is enough to push me over that edge. The last weekâ€™s events on Parliament Hill demonstrate how cheap and childish our politicians can be and how utterly absurd many aspects of our democracy are, or are about to be&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>WTF..now I would agree if you said how childish Harper was being,but to tar the other three party&#8217;s with the same brush is well,cynical.The parliamentary system is a parliamentary system after all,Harper is the PM not the president,part of his responsibility is to build house confidence,he failed,he chose to play political/partisan games.The Libs ,NDP and BLOC did the only thing they could do,that&#8217;s how our system was designed to work.</p>
<p>TH said&#8230;&#8221;An election should also put to rest the nonsensical coalition that has come together between the Liberals, Bloc and NDP. If it is not enough that we are supposed to hold our noses at the sheer absurdity of the Bloc holding court in this country, we also must endure a new Prime Minister who doesnâ€™t even hold the confidence of his own Party, let alone the electorate&#8221;&#8230;</p>
<p>Nonsensical coalition,wtf&#8230; your going to have to explain that one.Also this fear of the BLOC  is totally over blown,look at it positively,.i.e Canadians of all political persuasions working together to solve/deal with issues that affect us all( including the people of Quebec) Pray tell,what could possibly be wrong with that ?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138628','dirk'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138628','dirk','TH said...\&quot;The insanity that is our current Parliament is enough to push me over that edge. The last week&acirc;€™s events on Parliament Hill demonstrate how cheap and childish our politicians can be and how utterly absurd many aspects of our democracy are, or are about to be\&quot;...\r\n\r\nWTF..now I would agree if you said how childish Harper was being,but to tar the other three party\'s with the same brush is well,cynical.The parliamentary system is a parliamentary system after all,Harper is the PM not the president,part of his responsibility is to build house confidence,he failed,he chose to play political\/partisan games.The Libs ,NDP and BLOC did the only thing they could do,that\'s how our system was designed to work.\r\n\r\nTH said...\&quot;An election should also put to rest the nonsensical coalition that has come together between the Liberals, Bloc and NDP. If it is not enough that we are supposed to hold our noses at the sheer absurdity of the Bloc holding court in this country, we also must endure a new Prime Minister who doesn&acirc;€™t even hold the confidence of his own Party, let alone the electorate\&quot;...\r\n\r\nNonsensical coalition,wtf... your going to have to explain that one.Also this fear of the BLOC  is totally over blown,look at it positively,.i.e Canadians of all political persuasions working together to solve\/deal with issues that affect us all( including the people of Quebec) Pray tell,what could possibly be wrong with that ?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: James Bow</title>
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		<dc:creator>James Bow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:53:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There really is no need for an election. We don&#039;t elect governments, we elect parliaments. The mandate of our local members of parliament to represent us is still valid, even if Harper has failed to obtain the confidence of the majority of those members. There&#039;s a fair argument that these MPs are within their mandates to decide for themselves who should be prime minister, since Harper has so spectacularly failed in his post.

And, given that, what we should be doing is telling our local MPs how we think they should react, since right now they are our direct connection with this parliament.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138625&#039;,&#039;James Bow&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138625&#039;,&#039;James Bow&#039;,&#039;There really is no need for an election. We don\&#039;t elect governments, we elect parliaments. The mandate of our local members of parliament to represent us is still valid, even if Harper has failed to obtain the confidence of the majority of those members. There\&#039;s a fair argument that these MPs are within their mandates to decide for themselves who should be prime minister, since Harper has so spectacularly failed in his post.\r\n\r\nAnd, given that, what we should be doing is telling our local MPs how we think they should react, since right now they are our direct connection with this parliament.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There really is no need for an election. We don&#8217;t elect governments, we elect parliaments. The mandate of our local members of parliament to represent us is still valid, even if Harper has failed to obtain the confidence of the majority of those members. There&#8217;s a fair argument that these MPs are within their mandates to decide for themselves who should be prime minister, since Harper has so spectacularly failed in his post.</p>
<p>And, given that, what we should be doing is telling our local MPs how we think they should react, since right now they are our direct connection with this parliament.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138625','James Bow'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138625','James Bow','There really is no need for an election. We don\'t elect governments, we elect parliaments. The mandate of our local members of parliament to represent us is still valid, even if Harper has failed to obtain the confidence of the majority of those members. There\'s a fair argument that these MPs are within their mandates to decide for themselves who should be prime minister, since Harper has so spectacularly failed in his post.\r\n\r\nAnd, given that, what we should be doing is telling our local MPs how we think they should react, since right now they are our direct connection with this parliament.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Chimera</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chimera</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 00:13:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not at all interested in another election less than two months after an election that gave this country its second minority government in a row.  I don&#039;t think anything will change, and then what...do it &lt;i&gt;again&lt;/i&gt;?

And who&#039;s paying for all this?  And how?

No.  Let&#039;s see what a coalition can do.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138620&#039;,&#039;Chimera&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138620&#039;,&#039;Chimera&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;m not at all interested in another election less than two months after an election that gave this country its second minority government in a row.  I don\&#039;t think anything will change, and then what...do it &lt;i&gt;again&lt;\/i&gt;?\r\n\r\nAnd who\&#039;s paying for all this?  And how?\r\n\r\nNo.  Let\&#039;s see what a coalition can do.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not at all interested in another election less than two months after an election that gave this country its second minority government in a row.  I don&#8217;t think anything will change, and then what&#8230;do it <i>again</i>?</p>
<p>And who&#8217;s paying for all this?  And how?</p>
<p>No.  Let&#8217;s see what a coalition can do.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138620','Chimera'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138620','Chimera','I\'m not at all interested in another election less than two months after an election that gave this country its second minority government in a row.  I don\'t think anything will change, and then what...do it &lt;i&gt;again&lt;\/i&gt;?\r\n\r\nAnd who\'s paying for all this?  And how?\r\n\r\nNo.  Let\'s see what a coalition can do.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ron Good</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ron Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 21:25:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>Given the past few days, donâ€™t expect sanity as heâ€™s taken us all from a minor fender bender to massive train wreck piling disastrous reactions upon bad decisions</i></p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, of course&#8211;but usually the other folks at the scene of an accident don&#8217;t get busy smothering the occupants in hopes they can abscond with what&#8217;s in the trunk.</p>
<p>There are no good guys in this scenario. It&#8217;s just chimps, hyenas and buzzards.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138614','Ron Good'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138614','Ron Good','&lt;i&gt;Given the past few days, don&acirc;€™t expect sanity as he&acirc;€™s taken us all from a minor fender bender to massive train wreck piling disastrous reactions upon bad decisions&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nYou\'re right, of course--but usually the other folks at the scene of an accident don\'t get busy smothering the occupants in hopes they can abscond with what\'s in the trunk.\r\n\r\nThere are no good guys in this scenario. It\'s just chimps, hyenas and buzzards.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Shmohawk</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138613</link>
		<dc:creator>Shmohawk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Harper will need to resign before any of the above takes place. He will not accept anything less than the throne so long as he remains leader of CPoC. This includes an election, a coalition or any other working alternative.  So far, every scenario hinges on Harper and what he decides to do - and not do - in the next few days. Given the past few days, don&#039;t expect sanity as he&#039;s taken us all from a minor fender bender to massive train wreck piling disastrous reactions upon bad decisions.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138613&#039;,&#039;Shmohawk&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138613&#039;,&#039;Shmohawk&#039;,&#039;Harper will need to resign before any of the above takes place. He will not accept anything less than the throne so long as he remains leader of CPoC. This includes an election, a coalition or any other working alternative.  So far, every scenario hinges on Harper and what he decides to do - and not do - in the next few days. Given the past few days, don\&#039;t expect sanity as he\&#039;s taken us all from a minor fender bender to massive train wreck piling disastrous reactions upon bad decisions.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Harper will need to resign before any of the above takes place. He will not accept anything less than the throne so long as he remains leader of CPoC. This includes an election, a coalition or any other working alternative.  So far, every scenario hinges on Harper and what he decides to do &#8211; and not do &#8211; in the next few days. Given the past few days, don&#8217;t expect sanity as he&#8217;s taken us all from a minor fender bender to massive train wreck piling disastrous reactions upon bad decisions.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138613','Shmohawk'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138613','Shmohawk','Harper will need to resign before any of the above takes place. He will not accept anything less than the throne so long as he remains leader of CPoC. This includes an election, a coalition or any other working alternative.  So far, every scenario hinges on Harper and what he decides to do - and not do - in the next few days. Given the past few days, don\'t expect sanity as he\'s taken us all from a minor fender bender to massive train wreck piling disastrous reactions upon bad decisions.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: James Bow</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138612</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:01:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>An election could realistically be considered, unofficially, as a run-off election to the one we had in October 14. If this is the case, perhaps this should be the policy of the members of the coalition:

1. Run the candidates who ran in the previous election (save money on signs, et cetera)
2. In ridings where a Liberal/New Democrat/Bloc member won, have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.
3. In ridings where a Conservative won, have the members of the coalition look to see who placed second, then have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.

Put this into place, and we might finally have a big load of ridings with MPs who are elected with 50% of the local popular vote, or more.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138612&#039;,&#039;James Bow&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138612&#039;,&#039;James Bow&#039;,&#039;An election could realistically be considered, unofficially, as a run-off election to the one we had in October 14. If this is the case, perhaps this should be the policy of the members of the coalition:\r\n\r\n1. Run the candidates who ran in the previous election (save money on signs, et cetera)\r\n2. In ridings where a Liberal\/New Democrat\/Bloc member won, have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.\r\n3. In ridings where a Conservative won, have the members of the coalition look to see who placed second, then have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.\r\n\r\nPut this into place, and we might finally have a big load of ridings with MPs who are elected with 50% of the local popular vote, or more.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>An election could realistically be considered, unofficially, as a run-off election to the one we had in October 14. If this is the case, perhaps this should be the policy of the members of the coalition:</p>
<p>1. Run the candidates who ran in the previous election (save money on signs, et cetera)<br />
2. In ridings where a Liberal/New Democrat/Bloc member won, have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.<br />
3. In ridings where a Conservative won, have the members of the coalition look to see who placed second, then have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.</p>
<p>Put this into place, and we might finally have a big load of ridings with MPs who are elected with 50% of the local popular vote, or more.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138612','James Bow'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138612','James Bow','An election could realistically be considered, unofficially, as a run-off election to the one we had in October 14. If this is the case, perhaps this should be the policy of the members of the coalition:\r\n\r\n1. Run the candidates who ran in the previous election (save money on signs, et cetera)\r\n2. In ridings where a Liberal\/New Democrat\/Bloc member won, have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.\r\n3. In ridings where a Conservative won, have the members of the coalition look to see who placed second, then have the other members of the coalition sit out the election.\r\n\r\nPut this into place, and we might finally have a big load of ridings with MPs who are elected with 50% of the local popular vote, or more.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ron Good</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138611</link>
		<dc:creator>Ron Good</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 19:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;the only sane course forward is for the Governor General to dissolve the House and insist on an election&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah...that&#039;s probably the best way to deal with this absurd situation. I don&#039;t see how any of the so-called &quot;leaders&quot; &lt;i&gt;or their parties&lt;/i&gt; can claim to have any sort of superior confidence or support of the folks on the street.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138611&#039;,&#039;Ron Good&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138611&#039;,&#039;Ron Good&#039;,&#039;&lt;i&gt;the only sane course forward is for the Governor General to dissolve the House and insist on an election&lt;\/i&gt;\n\nYeah...that\&#039;s probably the best way to deal with this absurd situation. I don\&#039;t see how any of the so-called \&quot;leaders\&quot; &lt;i&gt;or their parties&lt;\/i&gt; can claim to have any sort of superior confidence or support of the folks on the street.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>the only sane course forward is for the Governor General to dissolve the House and insist on an election</i></p>
<p>Yeah&#8230;that&#8217;s probably the best way to deal with this absurd situation. I don&#8217;t see how any of the so-called &#8220;leaders&#8221; <i>or their parties</i> can claim to have any sort of superior confidence or support of the folks on the street.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138611','Ron Good'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138611','Ron Good','&lt;i&gt;the only sane course forward is for the Governor General to dissolve the House and insist on an election&lt;\/i&gt;\n\nYeah...that\'s probably the best way to deal with this absurd situation. I don\'t see how any of the so-called \&quot;leaders\&quot; &lt;i&gt;or their parties&lt;\/i&gt; can claim to have any sort of superior confidence or support of the folks on the street.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Canada for Disassembling &#171; The General Wolfe</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138610</link>
		<dc:creator>Canada for Disassembling &#171; The General Wolfe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] tested. Let&#8217;s remember that this mess proves how well it&#8217;s been working up to now. A coaliton could make a lot of people - and not just in Alberta - question the country. But an elect.... Let&#8217;s keep in mind that Canada&#8217;s been through parliamentary messÂ -Â even one that was [...]&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138610&#039;,&#039;Canada for Disassembling &laquo; The General Wolfe&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138610&#039;,&#039;Canada for Disassembling &laquo; The General Wolfe&#039;,&#039;&#91;...&#93; tested. Let&#8217;s remember that this mess proves how well it&#8217;s been working up to now. A coaliton could make a lot of people - and not just in Alberta - question the country. But an elect.... Let&#8217;s keep in mind that Canada&#8217;s been through parliamentary mess&#194;&#160;-&#194;&#160;even one that was &#91;...&#93;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] tested. Let&#8217;s remember that this mess proves how well it&#8217;s been working up to now. A coaliton could make a lot of people &#8211; and not just in Alberta &#8211; question the country. But an elect&#8230;. Let&#8217;s keep in mind that Canada&#8217;s been through parliamentary messÂ -Â even one that was [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138610','Canada for Disassembling &amp;laquo; The General Wolfe'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138610','Canada for Disassembling &amp;laquo; The General Wolfe','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; tested. Let&amp;#8217;s remember that this mess proves how well it&amp;#8217;s been working up to now. A coaliton could make a lot of people - and not just in Alberta - question the country. But an elect.... Let&amp;#8217;s keep in mind that Canada&amp;#8217;s been through parliamentary mess&Acirc;&nbsp;-&Acirc;&nbsp;even one that was &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: KevinG</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/12/02/an-election-please/comment-page-1/#comment-138607</link>
		<dc:creator>KevinG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Dec 2008 17:06:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Treehugger,

Certainly the Liberals would have a leader in place.  It would have to be Dion because you couldn&#039;t possibly unite a party behind a leader whose leadership would be ratified later.

Political outcomes are difficult to predict though and you may be right that Harper would pay a steep price for his miscalculation.  

That&#039;s not the way it looks to me.  It seems like support Harper is strong among people who voted for him and support for the coalition is strong among those who voted for the coalition parties.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;138607&#039;,&#039;KevinG&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;138607&#039;,&#039;KevinG&#039;,&#039;Treehugger,\r\n\r\nCertainly the Liberals would have a leader in place.  It would have to be Dion because you couldn\&#039;t possibly unite a party behind a leader whose leadership would be ratified later.\r\n\r\nPolitical outcomes are difficult to predict though and you may be right that Harper would pay a steep price for his miscalculation.  \r\n\r\nThat\&#039;s not the way it looks to me.  It seems like support Harper is strong among people who voted for him and support for the coalition is strong among those who voted for the coalition parties.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Treehugger,</p>
<p>Certainly the Liberals would have a leader in place.  It would have to be Dion because you couldn&#8217;t possibly unite a party behind a leader whose leadership would be ratified later.</p>
<p>Political outcomes are difficult to predict though and you may be right that Harper would pay a steep price for his miscalculation.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not the way it looks to me.  It seems like support Harper is strong among people who voted for him and support for the coalition is strong among those who voted for the coalition parties.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('138607','KevinG'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('138607','KevinG','Treehugger,\r\n\r\nCertainly the Liberals would have a leader in place.  It would have to be Dion because you couldn\'t possibly unite a party behind a leader whose leadership would be ratified later.\r\n\r\nPolitical outcomes are difficult to predict though and you may be right that Harper would pay a steep price for his miscalculation.  \r\n\r\nThat\'s not the way it looks to me.  It seems like support Harper is strong among people who voted for him and support for the coalition is strong among those who voted for the coalition parties.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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