Comments on: A Passenger Bill Of Rights Sounds Good To Me http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/ Sun, 14 Mar 2010 14:04:11 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Canuckguy http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136117 Canuckguy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 02:12:53 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136117 Then may I suggest you wear a speedo.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136117','Canuckguy'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136117','Canuckguy','Then may I suggest you wear a speedo.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Then may I suggest you wear a speedo.
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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136113 stageleft Mon, 08 Sep 2008 01:33:03 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136113 WOW, what a great idea.... rearrange my entire personal appearance to fit in with what some anal pencil pushing government security specialist from the 1940's thinks is '<i>acceptable in our society</i>'. ..... maybe we should all get buzz cuts and wear gray coveralls, I saw a movie like that once, they were very security conscious as well, it didn't paint a very pretty picture of society - have you seen it? How about we all just start stripping down to our respective boxers for them? I've talked to a number of people about this and my chosen course of action is to make sure I have a pen (not a fine point, they might take that away from me) and a note pad to note the name and employee number of each and every CATSA agent that (in my sole opinion) hassles me at any airport and launch formal complains against them - and I would encourage each and every person who is subjected to this sort of crap to do the same.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136113','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136113','stageleft','WOW, what a great idea.... rearrange my entire personal appearance to fit in with what some anal pencil pushing government security specialist from the 1940\'s thinks is \'<i>acceptable in our society<\/i>\'.\n\n..... maybe we should all get buzz cuts and wear gray coveralls, I saw a movie like that once, they were very security conscious as well, it didn\'t paint a very pretty picture of society - have you seen it?\n\nHow about we all just start stripping down to our respective boxers for them?\n\nI\'ve talked to a number of people about this and my chosen course of action is to make sure I have a pen (not a fine point, they might take that away from me) and a note pad to note the name and employee number of each and every CATSA agent that (in my sole opinion) hassles me at any airport and launch formal complains against them - and I would encourage each and every person who is subjected to this sort of crap to do the same.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> WOW, what a great idea…. rearrange my entire personal appearance to fit in with what some anal pencil pushing government security specialist from the 1940’s thinks is ‘acceptable in our society‘.

….. maybe we should all get buzz cuts and wear gray coveralls, I saw a movie like that once, they were very security conscious as well, it didn’t paint a very pretty picture of society – have you seen it?

How about we all just start stripping down to our respective boxers for them?

I’ve talked to a number of people about this and my chosen course of action is to make sure I have a pen (not a fine point, they might take that away from me) and a note pad to note the name and employee number of each and every CATSA agent that (in my sole opinion) hassles me at any airport and launch formal complains against them – and I would encourage each and every person who is subjected to this sort of crap to do the same.

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]]> By: Canuckguy http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136110 Canuckguy Mon, 08 Sep 2008 00:37:08 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136110 A smart terrorist will do his best to blend in, he sure as hell won’t want to resemble your hairy self. He will be clean shaven, neatly dressed and preferably not too dark.

You complain, Stagleft: “I’m always subjected to more screening than the suit and tie, or kaki clad, nice shoe wearing, crowd”. Do a test, clean up your act and see how it goes just to see. Report back.

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]]> By: Rosemary's Thoughts http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136059 Rosemary's Thoughts Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:43:45 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136059 <strong>Homerun Sarah Barracuda...</strong> I loved Sarah's speech. It seemed more like a conversation than a speech. Were there any memorable statements? Drill Baby Drill! I loved her attack on the press about her not having any experience....<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136059','Rosemary\'s Thoughts'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136059','Rosemary\'s Thoughts','<strong>Homerun Sarah Barracuda...<\/strong>\n\nI loved Sarah\'s speech. It seemed more like a conversation than a speech. Were there any memorable statements? Drill Baby Drill! I loved her attack on the press about her not having any experience....'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Homerun Sarah Barracuda…

I loved Sarah’s speech. It seemed more like a conversation than a speech. Were there any memorable statements? Drill Baby Drill! I loved her attack on the press about her not having any experience….

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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136057 stageleft Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:30:17 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136057 <i>Properly profile?</i> There is no way to <i>properly profile</i>, you cannot look at an individual and say this person, or that person, is more likely than another to be a danger to others -- unless of course they are carrying a big gun or refuse to stow their carry on bomb properly under the seat in front of them... those folks are the exception.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136057','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136057','stageleft','<i>Properly profile?<\/i> There is no way to <i>properly profile<\/i>, you cannot look at an individual and say this person, or that person, is more likely than another to be a danger to others -- unless of course they are carrying a big gun or refuse to stow their carry on bomb properly under the seat in front of them... those folks are the exception.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Properly profile? There is no way to properly profile, you cannot look at an individual and say this person, or that person, is more likely than another to be a danger to others — unless of course they are carrying a big gun or refuse to stow their carry on bomb properly under the seat in front of them… those folks are the exception.
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]]> By: Rosemary http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136056 Rosemary Sat, 06 Sep 2008 20:21:39 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136056 It is because we are too afraid to properly profile that this nonsense has to be thrust upon us. I have not gotten on a plane since that day, and it's not because I'm afraid of flying. I am not. I do, however, know my temper! ;) Have a great weekend, and I'm very glad this nonsense is over for you...for now at least.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136056','Rosemary'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136056','Rosemary','It is because we are too afraid to properly profile that this nonsense has to be thrust upon us. I have not gotten on a plane since that day, and it\'s not because I\'m afraid of flying. I am not. I do, however, know my temper! ;)\r\n\r\nHave a great weekend, and I\'m very glad this nonsense is over for you...for now at least.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It is because we are too afraid to properly profile that this nonsense has to be thrust upon us. I have not gotten on a plane since that day, and it’s not because I’m afraid of flying. I am not. I do, however, know my temper! ;)

Have a great weekend, and I’m very glad this nonsense is over for you…for now at least.

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]]> By: wideye http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136037 wideye Sat, 06 Sep 2008 12:13:16 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136037 I dunno about the beard or tattoo...maybe the long hair. But it's not YOU...it's because you are so "normal". Bad guys try to look like you. That's what I've been told because if anyone is going to be searched in a line up - I will be pegged. It's one of the reasons I hate flying and any travel outside of Canada. The searches are humiliating. On a flight from Kamloops to Vancouver I was patted down and had my purse emptied and every container opened all in public viewing. My car has been pulled over at the US border and I always get stupid questions...the best of the worst "Do you expect me to believe you own this car?" (the car was an eight year old Sunfire!)....the list is long. And I don't have a beard or tattoo...but I do have long hair.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136037','wideye'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136037','wideye','I dunno about the beard or tattoo...maybe the long hair. But it\'s not YOU...it\'s because you are so \"normal\". Bad guys try to look like you. That\'s what I\'ve been told because if anyone is going to be searched in a line up - I will be pegged. It\'s one of the reasons I hate flying and any travel outside of Canada. The searches are humiliating. On a flight from Kamloops to Vancouver I was patted down and had my purse emptied and every container opened all in public viewing. My car has been pulled over at the US border and I always get stupid questions...the best of the worst \"Do you expect me to believe you own this car?\" (the car was an eight year old Sunfire!)....the list is long. And I don\'t have a beard or tattoo...but I do have long hair.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I dunno about the beard or tattoo…maybe the long hair. But it’s not YOU…it’s because you are so “normal”. Bad guys try to look like you. That’s what I’ve been told because if anyone is going to be searched in a line up – I will be pegged. It’s one of the reasons I hate flying and any travel outside of Canada. The searches are humiliating. On a flight from Kamloops to Vancouver I was patted down and had my purse emptied and every container opened all in public viewing. My car has been pulled over at the US border and I always get stupid questions…the best of the worst “Do you expect me to believe you own this car?” (the car was an eight year old Sunfire!)….the list is long. And I don’t have a beard or tattoo…but I do have long hair.
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]]> By: Throbbin http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136034 Throbbin Sat, 06 Sep 2008 04:00:48 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136034 I must say a Leer jet from North Bay to Sudbury looks suspicious on it's own.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136034','Throbbin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136034','Throbbin','I must say a Leer jet from North Bay to Sudbury looks suspicious on it\'s own.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I must say a Leer jet from North Bay to Sudbury looks suspicious on it’s own.
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]]> By: jonZor http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136032 jonZor Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:41:02 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136032 It may have been the leather hat, because my bearded, tatooed brother, wearing a suit, was subjected to similar treatment on a flight from ... North Bay, to ... Sudbury. One can easily appreciate the extra care required on such a flight, a well-known terrorist target, especially since he was going on a six-passenger leer jet, and he knew everyone on board. Maybe it was his tanned complexion. My family tans quiclky. That was probably it.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136032','jonZor'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136032','jonZor','It may have been the leather hat, because my bearded, tatooed brother, wearing a suit, was subjected to similar treatment on a flight from ... North Bay, to ... Sudbury. One can easily appreciate the extra care required on such a flight, a well-known terrorist target, especially since he was going on a six-passenger leer jet, and he knew everyone on board.\r\n\r\nMaybe it was his tanned complexion. My family tans quiclky. That was probably it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> It may have been the leather hat, because my bearded, tatooed brother, wearing a suit, was subjected to similar treatment on a flight from … North Bay, to … Sudbury. One can easily appreciate the extra care required on such a flight, a well-known terrorist target, especially since he was going on a six-passenger leer jet, and he knew everyone on board.

Maybe it was his tanned complexion. My family tans quiclky. That was probably it.

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]]> By: Throbbin http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136023 Throbbin Sat, 06 Sep 2008 01:44:38 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136023 Or in a beard. Catch anything?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136023','Throbbin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136023','Throbbin','Or in a beard.\r\n\r\nCatch anything?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Or in a beard.

Catch anything?

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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136021 stageleft Sat, 06 Sep 2008 00:09:17 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136021 I can't speak to that, but I can say that within an hour and 20 minutes of hitting the [SUBMIT] button our good buddies at gc.ca showed up in the logs as reading about the complete and absolute stupidity I was subjected to - not that anything would ever result from that. Far too many sheeple are have bought the government line and are convinced that they are made safer by being forced to walk through a metal detector in their sock feet -- <i>look little Billy, they're x-raying our shoes so we'll be safe</i> -- for anything to change at this point. I'm seriously considering wearing a swimming suit under my cloths next time I travel and stripping right down to them before walking through the metal detector in an all but naked state..... it probably wouldn't help, you never know what might be hidden under a tattoo 'eh?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136021','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136021','stageleft','I can\'t speak to that, but I can say that within an hour and 20 minutes of hitting the [SUBMIT] button our good buddies at gc.ca showed up in the logs as reading about the complete and absolute stupidity I was subjected to - not that anything would ever result from that.\r\n\r\nFar too many sheeple are have bought the government line and are convinced that they are made safer by being forced to walk through a metal detector in their sock feet -- <i>look little Billy, they\'re x-raying our shoes so we\'ll be safe<\/i> -- for anything to change at this point.\r\n\r\nI\'m seriously considering wearing a swimming suit under my cloths next time I travel and stripping right down to them before walking through the metal detector in an all but naked state..... it probably wouldn\'t help, you never know what might be hidden under a tattoo \'eh?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I can’t speak to that, but I can say that within an hour and 20 minutes of hitting the [SUBMIT] button our good buddies at gc.ca showed up in the logs as reading about the complete and absolute stupidity I was subjected to – not that anything would ever result from that.

Far too many sheeple are have bought the government line and are convinced that they are made safer by being forced to walk through a metal detector in their sock feet — look little Billy, they’re x-raying our shoes so we’ll be safe — for anything to change at this point.

I’m seriously considering wearing a swimming suit under my cloths next time I travel and stripping right down to them before walking through the metal detector in an all but naked state….. it probably wouldn’t help, you never know what might be hidden under a tattoo ‘eh?

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]]> By: Throbbin http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136020 Throbbin Fri, 05 Sep 2008 23:35:50 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136020 Maybe she (CATSA agent) just liked you. Or maybe CATSA reads your blog, and figures anarchists must hate airplanes and airports...for reasons unknown. Catch anything?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136020','Throbbin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136020','Throbbin','Maybe she (CATSA agent) just liked you. Or maybe CATSA reads your blog, and figures anarchists must hate airplanes and airports...for reasons unknown.\r\n\r\nCatch anything?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Maybe she (CATSA agent) just liked you. Or maybe CATSA reads your blog, and figures anarchists must hate airplanes and airports…for reasons unknown.

Catch anything?

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]]> By: David http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136019 David Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:22:54 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136019 (OK the TSA fines levied on passengers have been US TSA crap. Hopefully it's better where you hail from. Hopefully.)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136019','David'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136019','David','(OK the TSA fines levied on passengers have been US TSA crap. Hopefully it\'s better where you hail from. Hopefully.)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> (OK the TSA fines levied on passengers have been US TSA crap. Hopefully it’s better where you hail from. Hopefully.)
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]]> By: David http://www.stageleft.info/2008/09/05/a-passenger-bill-of-rights-sounds-good-to-me/comment-page-1/#comment-136018 David Fri, 05 Sep 2008 18:21:47 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/?p=4787#comment-136018 "When a stupid [person--<i>Shaw wrote "man" but we can't have that in a world that allows the TSa to exist</i>] does something [s]he knows is wrong [s]he always claims it is his duty."--the Centurion in Shaw's "Antony and Cleopatra" A ,"Passenger's Bill of Rights" should include clear references to Dr. Tarr and Mr Fether in conjunction with Thugs Standing Around. Here's hoping you weren't slapped with a $10,000 fine with notice to be mailed to you. It's happened.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('136018','David'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('136018','David','\"When a stupid [person--<i>Shaw wrote \"man\" but we can\'t have that in a world that allows the TSa to exist<\/i>] does something [s]he knows is wrong [s]he always claims it is his duty.\"--the Centurion in Shaw\'s \"Antony and Cleopatra\"\r\n\r\nA ,\"Passenger\'s Bill of Rights\" should include clear references to Dr. Tarr and Mr Fether in conjunction with Thugs Standing Around. \r\n\r\nHere\'s hoping you weren\'t slapped with a $10,000 fine with notice to be mailed to you. It\'s happened.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> “When a stupid [person--Shaw wrote "man" but we can't have that in a world that allows the TSa to exist] does something [s]he knows is wrong [s]he always claims it is his duty.”–the Centurion in Shaw’s “Antony and Cleopatra”

A ,”Passenger’s Bill of Rights” should include clear references to Dr. Tarr and Mr Fether in conjunction with Thugs Standing Around.

Here’s hoping you weren’t slapped with a $10,000 fine with notice to be mailed to you. It’s happened.

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