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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134819</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 14:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;These are just security guards. They donâ€™t have the psychological training to assess behaviour. &#8221;</p>
<p>But the point of behavioural profiling is that these people WOULD be trained properly to do that &#8211; as the security personnel at El Al are.</p>
<p>Behavioral profiling has science behind it, while demographic and racial profile just don&#8217;t work. Sadly, it requires people who are more intelligent than the $7.00/hr rent-a-cops that TSA and CATSA like to hire. Its more effective, but also more expensive.</p>
<p>So really the bottom line is that airlines and the so-called transportation safety agencies are more concerned with saving money than being effective.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134819','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134819','Mike','\&quot;These are just security guards. They don&acirc;€™t have the psychological training to assess behaviour. \&quot;\r\n\r\nBut the point of behavioural profiling is that these people WOULD be trained properly to do that - as the security personnel at El Al are.\r\n\r\nBehavioral profiling has science behind it, while demographic and racial profile just don\'t work. Sadly, it requires people who are more intelligent than the $7.00\/hr rent-a-cops that TSA and CATSA like to hire. Its more effective, but also more expensive.\r\n\r\nSo really the bottom line is that airlines and the so-called transportation safety agencies are more concerned with saving money than being effective.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Raphael Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134815</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphael Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jul 2008 04:33:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mike, why would behavioral profiling work any better? Are Gramma and Billy acting strangely?

These are just security guards. They don&#039;t have the psychological training to assess behaviour.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134815&#039;,&#039;Raphael Alexander&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134815&#039;,&#039;Raphael Alexander&#039;,&#039;Mike, why would behavioral profiling work any better? Are Gramma and Billy acting strangely?\r\n\r\nThese are just security guards. They don\&#039;t have the psychological training to assess behaviour.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mike, why would behavioral profiling work any better? Are Gramma and Billy acting strangely?</p>
<p>These are just security guards. They don&#8217;t have the psychological training to assess behaviour.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134815','Raphael Alexander'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134815','Raphael Alexander','Mike, why would behavioral profiling work any better? Are Gramma and Billy acting strangely?\r\n\r\nThese are just security guards. They don\'t have the psychological training to assess behaviour.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134804</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:27:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Raph,

You might want to google Bruce Schneier and check out his blogs and writings - he is the &#039;guru&#039; of computer security and encryption and is one of the leading experts in general security.

His position boils down to this - people are not security risks by who they are, but rather by what they do. He points out that quite simply demographic or any other kind of profiling based what a person is will not work, but rather by how one acts - behavioral profiling.

So, instead of targeting all Muslim and\or &#039;brown&#039; men between 18 and 35 for special attention, you target those passengers who do suspicious things, regardless of who they are. So, look for patterns such as paying for a ticket in cash, one way tickets, little or know luggage.  Target observed behaviors, such are nervousness, sweating, inconsistent answers to questions. Combine it all with good intelligence data.

This has the benefit of not only catching terrorists, but drug smugglers, counterfeiters, human traffickers, money launderers and other criminal elements that may cross borders.

Ahmad Ressam was captured in Seattle not because he was Muslim or Arab, but because the Border Patrol Officer who questioned him thought he was acting &#039;hinkey&#039; and decided, based on his behaviour, to have a closer look.

Behavioral Profiling is what works for El Al, not &quot;demographic&quot; or racial profiling - that was how they discovered an pregnant Irish girl was (unknown to even her) carrying a bomb on board a plane about 20 years ago. She didn&#039;t answer the questions right and her story seemed odd so they checked her out. Had they targeted only based on demographic, the plane would have been blown up.

Demographic or racial profiling seems to work on paper, but never does in practice.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134804&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134804&#039;,&#039;Mike&#039;,&#039;Raph,\r\n\r\nYou might want to google Bruce Schneier and check out his blogs and writings - he is the \&#039;guru\&#039; of computer security and encryption and is one of the leading experts in general security.\r\n\r\nHis position boils down to this - people are not security risks by who they are, but rather by what they do. He points out that quite simply demographic or any other kind of profiling based what a person is will not work, but rather by how one acts - behavioral profiling.\r\n\r\nSo, instead of targeting all Muslim and\or \&#039;brown\&#039; men between 18 and 35 for special attention, you target those passengers who do suspicious things, regardless of who they are. So, look for patterns such as paying for a ticket in cash, one way tickets, little or know luggage.  Target observed behaviors, such are nervousness, sweating, inconsistent answers to questions. Combine it all with good intelligence data.\r\n\r\nThis has the benefit of not only catching terrorists, but drug smugglers, counterfeiters, human traffickers, money launderers and other criminal elements that may cross borders.\r\n\r\nAhmad Ressam was captured in Seattle not because he was Muslim or Arab, but because the Border Patrol Officer who questioned him thought he was acting \&#039;hinkey\&#039; and decided, based on his behaviour, to have a closer look.\r\n\r\nBehavioral Profiling is what works for El Al, not \&quot;demographic\&quot; or racial profiling - that was how they discovered an pregnant Irish girl was (unknown to even her) carrying a bomb on board a plane about 20 years ago. She didn\&#039;t answer the questions right and her story seemed odd so they checked her out. Had they targeted only based on demographic, the plane would have been blown up.\r\n\r\nDemographic or racial profiling seems to work on paper, but never does in practice.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Raph,</p>
<p>You might want to google Bruce Schneier and check out his blogs and writings &#8211; he is the &#8216;guru&#8217; of computer security and encryption and is one of the leading experts in general security.</p>
<p>His position boils down to this &#8211; people are not security risks by who they are, but rather by what they do. He points out that quite simply demographic or any other kind of profiling based what a person is will not work, but rather by how one acts &#8211; behavioral profiling.</p>
<p>So, instead of targeting all Muslim and\or &#8216;brown&#8217; men between 18 and 35 for special attention, you target those passengers who do suspicious things, regardless of who they are. So, look for patterns such as paying for a ticket in cash, one way tickets, little or know luggage.  Target observed behaviors, such are nervousness, sweating, inconsistent answers to questions. Combine it all with good intelligence data.</p>
<p>This has the benefit of not only catching terrorists, but drug smugglers, counterfeiters, human traffickers, money launderers and other criminal elements that may cross borders.</p>
<p>Ahmad Ressam was captured in Seattle not because he was Muslim or Arab, but because the Border Patrol Officer who questioned him thought he was acting &#8216;hinkey&#8217; and decided, based on his behaviour, to have a closer look.</p>
<p>Behavioral Profiling is what works for El Al, not &#8220;demographic&#8221; or racial profiling &#8211; that was how they discovered an pregnant Irish girl was (unknown to even her) carrying a bomb on board a plane about 20 years ago. She didn&#8217;t answer the questions right and her story seemed odd so they checked her out. Had they targeted only based on demographic, the plane would have been blown up.</p>
<p>Demographic or racial profiling seems to work on paper, but never does in practice.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134804','Mike'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134804','Mike','Raph,\r\n\r\nYou might want to google Bruce Schneier and check out his blogs and writings - he is the \'guru\' of computer security and encryption and is one of the leading experts in general security.\r\n\r\nHis position boils down to this - people are not security risks by who they are, but rather by what they do. He points out that quite simply demographic or any other kind of profiling based what a person is will not work, but rather by how one acts - behavioral profiling.\r\n\r\nSo, instead of targeting all Muslim and\or \'brown\' men between 18 and 35 for special attention, you target those passengers who do suspicious things, regardless of who they are. So, look for patterns such as paying for a ticket in cash, one way tickets, little or know luggage.  Target observed behaviors, such are nervousness, sweating, inconsistent answers to questions. Combine it all with good intelligence data.\r\n\r\nThis has the benefit of not only catching terrorists, but drug smugglers, counterfeiters, human traffickers, money launderers and other criminal elements that may cross borders.\r\n\r\nAhmad Ressam was captured in Seattle not because he was Muslim or Arab, but because the Border Patrol Officer who questioned him thought he was acting \'hinkey\' and decided, based on his behaviour, to have a closer look.\r\n\r\nBehavioral Profiling is what works for El Al, not \&quot;demographic\&quot; or racial profiling - that was how they discovered an pregnant Irish girl was (unknown to even her) carrying a bomb on board a plane about 20 years ago. She didn\'t answer the questions right and her story seemed odd so they checked her out. Had they targeted only based on demographic, the plane would have been blown up.\r\n\r\nDemographic or racial profiling seems to work on paper, but never does in practice.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134788</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:53:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So you&#039;d hassle...who, exactly? 

Sikh Canadians? Aboriginal Canadians? Catholics who oppose abortion? Francophones Quebecois? Anarchists? These are all groups whose most radical fringes have committed or threatened to commit acts of terrorism in Canada.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134788&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134788&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;So you\&#039;d hassle...who, exactly? \r\n\r\nSikh Canadians? Aboriginal Canadians? Catholics who oppose abortion? Francophones Quebecois? Anarchists? These are all groups whose most radical fringes have committed or threatened to commit acts of terrorism in Canada.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So you&#8217;d hassle&#8230;who, exactly? </p>
<p>Sikh Canadians? Aboriginal Canadians? Catholics who oppose abortion? Francophones Quebecois? Anarchists? These are all groups whose most radical fringes have committed or threatened to commit acts of terrorism in Canada.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134788','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134788','balbulican','So you\'d hassle...who, exactly? \r\n\r\nSikh Canadians? Aboriginal Canadians? Catholics who oppose abortion? Francophones Quebecois? Anarchists? These are all groups whose most radical fringes have committed or threatened to commit acts of terrorism in Canada.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Ti-Guy</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134787</link>
		<dc:creator>Ti-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 20:07:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end...&lt;/i&gt;

Why does it need to end?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134787&#039;,&#039;Ti-Guy&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134787&#039;,&#039;Ti-Guy&#039;,&#039;&lt;i&gt;I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end...&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nWhy does it need to end?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end&#8230;</i></p>
<p>Why does it need to end?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134787','Ti-Guy'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134787','Ti-Guy','&lt;i&gt;I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end...&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nWhy does it need to end?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Raphael Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134786</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphael Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:20:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end [what the hell is with the peek-a-boo machines that take naked pictures of you] and a more direct strategy of profiling demographics implemented.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134786&#039;,&#039;Raphael Alexander&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134786&#039;,&#039;Raphael Alexander&#039;,&#039;I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end &#91;what the hell is with the peek-a-boo machines that take naked pictures of you&#93; and a more direct strategy of profiling demographics implemented.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the point is that the harassment of 99% of innocent people needs to end [what the hell is with the peek-a-boo machines that take naked pictures of you] and a more direct strategy of profiling demographics implemented.
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134784</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 18:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, let&#039;s see. In the last half century of Canada&#039;s history, the noteworthy acts of terrorism have been committed by Francophone Quebecois and Canadians of Sikh origins (presumably). 

&quot;What percentage of terrorists are Muslim?&quot;

Wrong question. What percentage of Muslims are terrorists?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134784&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134784&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;Well, let\&#039;s see. In the last half century of Canada\&#039;s history, the noteworthy acts of terrorism have been committed by Francophone Quebecois and Canadians of Sikh origins (presumably). \r\n\r\n\&quot;What percentage of terrorists are Muslim?\&quot;\r\n\r\nWrong question. What percentage of Muslims are terrorists?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, let&#8217;s see. In the last half century of Canada&#8217;s history, the noteworthy acts of terrorism have been committed by Francophone Quebecois and Canadians of Sikh origins (presumably). </p>
<p>&#8220;What percentage of terrorists are Muslim?&#8221;</p>
<p>Wrong question. What percentage of Muslims are terrorists?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134784','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134784','balbulican','Well, let\'s see. In the last half century of Canada\'s history, the noteworthy acts of terrorism have been committed by Francophone Quebecois and Canadians of Sikh origins (presumably). \r\n\r\n\&quot;What percentage of terrorists are Muslim?\&quot;\r\n\r\nWrong question. What percentage of Muslims are terrorists?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Raphael Alexander</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134781</link>
		<dc:creator>Raphael Alexander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 17:05:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do think there&#039;s a misapprehension that all terrorists are Muslims or that their causes are one and the same. Here in B.C. there is a fairly stronger sentiment against Sikh extremists than Muslim I suspect. But what I would do from a security standpoint is look at demography to target terrorism in prevention. What percentage of terrorists are Muslim? How many Muslims fly through Pearson International Airport on a given day? What is the likelihood that a Canadian-born citizen will need to be checked for security? I think using common sense and demography we could stop wasting the time of Canadians and use profiling techniques to target the most likely candidates of terrorism. And I think that&#039;s what the far-right is getting at here. It isn&#039;t gramma and little billy who need to be checked at the gate for weapons of mass destruction. And yet our airport security treats us as such.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134781&#039;,&#039;Raphael Alexander&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134781&#039;,&#039;Raphael Alexander&#039;,&#039;I do think there\&#039;s a misapprehension that all terrorists are Muslims or that their causes are one and the same. Here in B.C. there is a fairly stronger sentiment against Sikh extremists than Muslim I suspect. But what I would do from a security standpoint is look at demography to target terrorism in prevention. What percentage of terrorists are Muslim? How many Muslims fly through Pearson International Airport on a given day? What is the likelihood that a Canadian-born citizen will need to be checked for security? I think using common sense and demography we could stop wasting the time of Canadians and use profiling techniques to target the most likely candidates of terrorism. And I think that\&#039;s what the far-right is getting at here. It isn\&#039;t gramma and little billy who need to be checked at the gate for weapons of mass destruction. And yet our airport security treats us as such.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do think there&#8217;s a misapprehension that all terrorists are Muslims or that their causes are one and the same. Here in B.C. there is a fairly stronger sentiment against Sikh extremists than Muslim I suspect. But what I would do from a security standpoint is look at demography to target terrorism in prevention. What percentage of terrorists are Muslim? How many Muslims fly through Pearson International Airport on a given day? What is the likelihood that a Canadian-born citizen will need to be checked for security? I think using common sense and demography we could stop wasting the time of Canadians and use profiling techniques to target the most likely candidates of terrorism. And I think that&#8217;s what the far-right is getting at here. It isn&#8217;t gramma and little billy who need to be checked at the gate for weapons of mass destruction. And yet our airport security treats us as such.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134781','Raphael Alexander'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134781','Raphael Alexander','I do think there\'s a misapprehension that all terrorists are Muslims or that their causes are one and the same. Here in B.C. there is a fairly stronger sentiment against Sikh extremists than Muslim I suspect. But what I would do from a security standpoint is look at demography to target terrorism in prevention. What percentage of terrorists are Muslim? How many Muslims fly through Pearson International Airport on a given day? What is the likelihood that a Canadian-born citizen will need to be checked for security? I think using common sense and demography we could stop wasting the time of Canadians and use profiling techniques to target the most likely candidates of terrorism. And I think that\'s what the far-right is getting at here. It isn\'t gramma and little billy who need to be checked at the gate for weapons of mass destruction. And yet our airport security treats us as such.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134780</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 16:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And the spectacular, yawning crevasse between that fancy and observable reality...?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134780&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134780&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;And the spectacular, yawning crevasse between that fancy and observable reality...?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the spectacular, yawning crevasse between that fancy and observable reality&#8230;?
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		<title>By: Ti-Guy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ti-Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 15:10:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Irving Kristol: &lt;i&gt;There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn&#039;t work.&lt;/i&gt;

It makes more sense if you think of the vast bulk of the wingnuts like RightGirl as victims of the neoconservative &quot;noble lie,&quot; the nobility of which they seriously over-estimated given the ease of communication these days.  In their reality (which the rest of us do not inhabit), &quot;all terrorists are Muslim&quot; is the truth appropriate to them, since a world without specific existential threats implies a world of unknown threats that is terrifying to them.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134778&#039;,&#039;Ti-Guy&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134778&#039;,&#039;Ti-Guy&#039;,&#039;Irving Kristol: &lt;i&gt;There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn\&#039;t work.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nIt makes more sense if you think of the vast bulk of the wingnuts like RightGirl as victims of the neoconservative \&quot;noble lie,\&quot; the nobility of which they seriously over-estimated given the ease of communication these days.  In their reality (which the rest of us do not inhabit), \&quot;all terrorists are Muslim\&quot; is the truth appropriate to them, since a world without specific existential threats implies a world of unknown threats that is terrifying to them.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Irving Kristol: <i>There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn&#8217;t work.</i></p>
<p>It makes more sense if you think of the vast bulk of the wingnuts like RightGirl as victims of the neoconservative &#8220;noble lie,&#8221; the nobility of which they seriously over-estimated given the ease of communication these days.  In their reality (which the rest of us do not inhabit), &#8220;all terrorists are Muslim&#8221; is the truth appropriate to them, since a world without specific existential threats implies a world of unknown threats that is terrifying to them.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134778','Ti-Guy'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134778','Ti-Guy','Irving Kristol: &lt;i&gt;There are different kinds of truths for different kinds of people. There are truths appropriate for children; truths that are appropriate for students; truths that are appropriate for educated adults; and truths that are appropriate for highly educated adults, and the notion that there should be one set of truths available to everyone is a modern democratic fallacy. It doesn\'t work.&lt;\/i&gt;\r\n\r\nIt makes more sense if you think of the vast bulk of the wingnuts like RightGirl as victims of the neoconservative \&quot;noble lie,\&quot; the nobility of which they seriously over-estimated given the ease of communication these days.  In their reality (which the rest of us do not inhabit), \&quot;all terrorists are Muslim\&quot; is the truth appropriate to them, since a world without specific existential threats implies a world of unknown threats that is terrifying to them.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134777</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:38:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>CC, I think you must be talking about that Alpha Male art critic who dabbles in political commentary. I&#039;m talking about Mark STEIN, author of the  &quot;MuzzBusters&quot; series. 

Have you read them? They&#039;re great. 

Four surly, un or under-employed misfits, previously unknown to each other, are summoned to a mysterious office in the middle of the night. Windy, with the supernaturally loud voice; Levy, gifted with the ability to raise an obscuring fog even in sealed room; Shaydie, a midget armaments geek, and Mac, who commands a horde of venomous winged monkeys, all brain dead but obedient.

They receive mysterious guidance from what appears to be a putrefying severed head in a bell jar, and have no end of jolly times and hijinks fighting evil terrorists, all of whom, of course, are Muslim. As of course we know all terrorists are.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134777&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134777&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;CC, I think you must be talking about that Alpha Male art critic who dabbles in political commentary. I\&#039;m talking about Mark STEIN, author of the  \&quot;MuzzBusters\&quot; series. \r\n\r\nHave you read them? They\&#039;re great. \r\n\r\nFour surly, un or under-employed misfits, previously unknown to each other, are summoned to a mysterious office in the middle of the night. Windy, with the supernaturally loud voice; Levy, gifted with the ability to raise an obscuring fog even in sealed room; Shaydie, a midget armaments geek, and Mac, who commands a horde of venomous winged monkeys, all brain dead but obedient.\r\n\r\nThey receive mysterious guidance from what appears to be a putrefying severed head in a bell jar, and have no end of jolly times and hijinks fighting evil terrorists, all of whom, of course, are Muslim. As of course we know all terrorists are.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>CC, I think you must be talking about that Alpha Male art critic who dabbles in political commentary. I&#8217;m talking about Mark STEIN, author of the  &#8220;MuzzBusters&#8221; series. </p>
<p>Have you read them? They&#8217;re great. </p>
<p>Four surly, un or under-employed misfits, previously unknown to each other, are summoned to a mysterious office in the middle of the night. Windy, with the supernaturally loud voice; Levy, gifted with the ability to raise an obscuring fog even in sealed room; Shaydie, a midget armaments geek, and Mac, who commands a horde of venomous winged monkeys, all brain dead but obedient.</p>
<p>They receive mysterious guidance from what appears to be a putrefying severed head in a bell jar, and have no end of jolly times and hijinks fighting evil terrorists, all of whom, of course, are Muslim. As of course we know all terrorists are.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134777','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134777','balbulican','CC, I think you must be talking about that Alpha Male art critic who dabbles in political commentary. I\'m talking about Mark STEIN, author of the  \&quot;MuzzBusters\&quot; series. \r\n\r\nHave you read them? They\'re great. \r\n\r\nFour surly, un or under-employed misfits, previously unknown to each other, are summoned to a mysterious office in the middle of the night. Windy, with the supernaturally loud voice; Levy, gifted with the ability to raise an obscuring fog even in sealed room; Shaydie, a midget armaments geek, and Mac, who commands a horde of venomous winged monkeys, all brain dead but obedient.\r\n\r\nThey receive mysterious guidance from what appears to be a putrefying severed head in a bell jar, and have no end of jolly times and hijinks fighting evil terrorists, all of whom, of course, are Muslim. As of course we know all terrorists are.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: ajsuhail</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2008/07/06/if-you-say-something-stupid-often-enough/comment-page-1/#comment-134776</link>
		<dc:creator>ajsuhail</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 14:21:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have written the following to Michael Coren who has invited this bigot to be on his show on Wed 9 July</p>
<p>Dear Michael,</p>
<p>When I lived in Canada for a period of 4 years, I regularly watched your show. I did not agree with some of your views but I liked the reasoned and calm way you put things across. I was therefore shocked to learn that you have invited Wendy of the website Girl on the right on your show. I believe that were you aware of the many hate filled columns she has written, you would not have invited her. Her writing was so bigoted that STEPHEN Taylor removed her from the Blogging Tories. Google her and you will read what she has written. Here are a few examples.</p>
<p>In this column she wishes that all Muslims are killed because she considers all of us terrorists. Read the last line.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.girlontheright.com/2007/01/nothing-turns-me-on-more-than-dead.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.girlontheright.com/2007/01/nothing-turns-me-on-more-than-dead.html</a></p>
<p>This is another example of her bigotry</p>
<p><a href="http://www.girlontheright.com/2006/07/islam-must-be-stopped.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.girlontheright.com/2006/07/islam-must-be-stopped.html</a></p>
<p>In yet another column she accused native Canadians of fâ€¦â€¦g their own daughters.</p>
<p><a href="http://girlontheright.com/category/natives/" rel="nofollow">http://girlontheright.com/category/natives/</a></p>
<p>These are just a few of the columns she has written. Tell me, is the kind of hate filled, racist bigot you want on your show?</p>
<p>I would appreciate a reply </p>
<p>Regards</p>
<p>Suhail</p>
<p>i am awaiting his response
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134776','ajsuhail'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134776','ajsuhail','I have written the following to Michael Coren who has invited this bigot to be on his show on Wed 9 July\r\n\r\nDear Michael,\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nWhen I lived in Canada for a period of 4 years, I regularly watched your show. I did not agree with some of your views but I liked the reasoned and calm way you put things across. I was therefore shocked to learn that you have invited Wendy of the website Girl on the right on your show. I believe that were you aware of the many hate filled columns she has written, you would not have invited her. Her writing was so bigoted that STEPHEN Taylor removed her from the Blogging Tories. Google her and you will read what she has written. Here are a few examples.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nIn this column she wishes that all Muslims are killed because she considers all of us terrorists. Read the last line.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.girlontheright.com\/2007\/01\/nothing-turns-me-on-more-than-dead.html\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nThis is another example of her bigotry\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.girlontheright.com\/2006\/07\/islam-must-be-stopped.html\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nIn yet another column she accused native Canadians of f&acirc;€&brvbar;&acirc;€&brvbar;g their own daughters.\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/girlontheright.com\/category\/natives\/\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nThese are just a few of the columns she has written. Tell me, is the kind of hate filled, racist bigot you want on your show?\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nI would appreciate a reply \r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nRegards\r\n\r\n \r\n\r\nSuhail\r\n\r\ni am awaiting his response'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: CC</title>
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		<dc:creator>CC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jul 2008 13:45:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Um ... &quot;Steyn.&quot;  It&#039;s &quot;Steyn.&quot;&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;134771&#039;,&#039;CC&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;134771&#039;,&#039;CC&#039;,&#039;Um ... \&quot;Steyn.\&quot;  It\&#039;s \&quot;Steyn.\&quot;&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Um &#8230; &#8220;Steyn.&#8221;  It&#8217;s &#8220;Steyn.&#8221;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('134771','CC'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('134771','CC','Um ... \&quot;Steyn.\&quot;  It\'s \&quot;Steyn.\&quot;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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