Comments on: How Do We Weed Out The Wackos? http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 03:00:19 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/comment-page-1/#comment-131908 stageleft Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:32:30 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/#comment-131908

Determining the values that parents teach their children is the last place that the State aught to be.

I agree with you, now offer your thoughts on what happens with the nutbars?

…..you want the state to remove kids from their parents’ homes so they can better fit your view of what is an appropriate way to practice faith.

No, not my views, my concerns about a bunch of kids being indoctrinated into the next Christian Crusades. In your opinion does society leave them until they become a danger that they will? 10 & 11 years old willing to die in the [perceived] service of god…. does that remind you of any other nutbar indoctrinations?

These questions, as I say, are causing conflict. There is what I would want verses reality – got any suggestions?

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]]> By: Kevin http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/comment-page-1/#comment-131890 Kevin Wed, 12 Mar 2008 15:55:03 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/#comment-131890 SL- There is no dilemma. I don't think you should try and determine "which of those people is probably cranking out hazards to society" at all. Determining the values that parents teach their children is the last place that the State aught to be. Let's be clear about what you're suggesting: based on your own value judgement you want the state to remove kids from their parents' homes so they can better fit your view of what is an appropriate way to practice faith. Are you sure you live in the LLQ because this thread is sounding a little ULQ to me.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('131890','Kevin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('131890','Kevin','SL-\r\n\r\nThere is no dilemma. I don\'t think you should try and determine \"which of those people is probably cranking out hazards to society\" at all. Determining the values that parents teach their children is the last place that the State aught to be. \r\n\r\nLet\'s be clear about what you\'re suggesting: based on your own value judgement you want the state to remove kids from their parents\' homes so they can better fit your view of what is an appropriate way to practice faith.\r\n\r\nAre you sure you live in the LLQ because this thread is sounding a little ULQ to me.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> SL-

There is no dilemma. I don’t think you should try and determine “which of those people is probably cranking out hazards to society” at all. Determining the values that parents teach their children is the last place that the State aught to be.

Let’s be clear about what you’re suggesting: based on your own value judgement you want the state to remove kids from their parents’ homes so they can better fit your view of what is an appropriate way to practice faith.

Are you sure you live in the LLQ because this thread is sounding a little ULQ to me.

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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/comment-page-1/#comment-131886 stageleft Wed, 12 Mar 2008 14:37:08 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/#comment-131886 No Kevin, I mean taking the poor kids out of those homes <b>completely</b> and permanently before they become the dangers to society at large that religious extremists represent. And therein is the dilemma If we say that people have the right to educate their children as they see fit (if they have the desire, skill, and ability to do so), then how do we fairly determine which of those people is probably cranking out hazards to society, and how do we deal with that if there is in fact "the right" to educate your own children?<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('131886','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('131886','stageleft','No Kevin, I mean taking the poor kids out of those homes <b>completely<\/b> and permanently before they become the dangers to society at large that religious extremists represent.\r\n\r\nAnd therein is the dilemma\r\n\r\nIf we say that people have the right to educate their children as they see fit (if they have the desire, skill, and ability to do so), then how do we fairly determine which of those people is probably cranking out hazards to society, and how do we deal with that if there is in fact \"the right\" to educate your own children?'); return false;">Quote</a></div> No Kevin, I mean taking the poor kids out of those homes completely and permanently before they become the dangers to society at large that religious extremists represent.

And therein is the dilemma

If we say that people have the right to educate their children as they see fit (if they have the desire, skill, and ability to do so), then how do we fairly determine which of those people is probably cranking out hazards to society, and how do we deal with that if there is in fact “the right” to educate your own children?

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]]> By: April Reign http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/comment-page-1/#comment-131883 April Reign Wed, 12 Mar 2008 12:26:53 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/#comment-131883 I see where you are going with this. Get them out into the larger community for at least a short period of time so that they have a chance, even if they don't take it, to report any abuse and to see a different philosophy of life.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('131883','April Reign'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('131883','April Reign','I see where you are going with this. Get them out into the larger community for at least a short period of time so that they have a chance, even if they don\'t take it, to report any abuse and to see a different philosophy of life.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> I see where you are going with this. Get them out into the larger community for at least a short period of time so that they have a chance, even if they don’t take it, to report any abuse and to see a different philosophy of life.
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]]> By: Kevin http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/comment-page-1/#comment-131876 Kevin Wed, 12 Mar 2008 05:12:13 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2008/03/11/how-do-we-weed-out-the-wackos/#comment-131876 <em>"... and I think that taking the poor kids out of those homes completely would be a mercy to them ..."</em> I see where you're going with this. Break the cycle. Bring them into line with broader liberal values. It would be for their own good. We could call them residential schools.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('131876','Kevin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('131876','Kevin','<em>\"... and I think that taking the poor kids out of those homes completely would be a mercy to them ...\"<\/em>\r\n\r\nI see where you\'re going with this. Break the cycle. Bring them into line with broader liberal values. It would be for their own good. \r\n\r\nWe could call them residential schools.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> “… and I think that taking the poor kids out of those homes completely would be a mercy to them …”

I see where you’re going with this. Break the cycle. Bring them into line with broader liberal values. It would be for their own good.

We could call them residential schools.

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