Surveillance cameras in his house? Is he miming instructions to his Al-Qaeda brethren? Long-distance sign language?

Seems to me, IF the guy is really involved in “communications relay” as part of a terrorist cell, the best and most effective way to catch him would be to monitor his “communications” - like his fax machine, his internet usage, and his phone.

I’m no fan of wiretapping, but if the government feels that this guy is such a risk, why not monitor his communications? Surveillance cameras in the house is way over the top, a major invasion of privacy, and ineffective in case this guy makes a phone call with his back to the camera.

Look, you commie whiners, I’m not sure what part of the logic chain you’re having trouble following, but let me spell it out for you.

a) We live in a society dominated by leftists, a government which at the time of Mr. Jaballah’s incarceration was infested by covert Al-Qaeda supporters and Jihadis, and a judiciary noteworthy only for their desire to turn our country into another Soviet Gulag.

b) By YOUR OWN ADMISSION, Stageleftislamofascinazi, this guy spend eight years in jail .

c) We don’t imprison innocent people.

Q.E.D…?

On the other hand…

I am glad that we actually have such a debate in Canada. We’re struggling with the grey, which is to be expected, and lauded. There’s a reason he tried for asylum HERE after all. Most other countries would have just immediately deported him. (I can see the scene now: “Dear, that’s awful! Torture you say. And why do the Egyptians want to torture you, Sir? Organizing pro-democracy rallies? Giving out birth control to teenagers? Oh, I see. Because they believe you’re an alQaeda operative who helped pull off the African embassy bombings. Well. Ok then. Here’s you’re one-way ticket to Cairo. Good luck with sorting that out!”). I’d imagine the Americans wouldn’t, but not because of the potential torture, but because THEY’D want to keep him (I’d imagine if he’d applied for asylum in the U.S. he’d be in Cuba right now). I think pretty much every other country on the planet would either secretly keep him locked up themselves (and maybe torture him themselves, depending on the country) or wash their hands of him and put him immediately on the first plane back to Egypt. I can’t imagine anyone else putting him under house arrest on the word of his wife and son to keep an eye on him!

As I said, I think it’s a complicated case, and I think our system (pretty uniquely) recognizes that. That we’d include “house arrest” as an option in such a case gets my dander up a bit, but it’s better than what most countries would do (which is to say that most countries would simply be focusing on WHO gets to torture him, and where).

True, he was never charged with or convicted of a crime (though, the Canadian government never have him a chance) but he was also refused asylum. He is not legally entitled to live in Canada. He’s not legally entitled to BE in Canada. “Due process” doesn’t mean “anyone can stay in Canada indefinitely no matter what”. This man’s only still here because he can’t be deported back to Egypt because the Egyptians will torture him, and I’d imagine no one else on the planet wants to take him. It’s not like this guy was living quietly in Canada for decades and we found him. He came here AFTER the bombings to get asylum from the Egyptians who want to torture him to find out about the bombings. That we don’t want to send him back to Egypt makes me kinda proud. The fact that the alternative is that he just gets to live comfortably under house arrest in Canada for the rest of his life with his family makes me vomit a little in my mouth.

There’s a list of terrorists as long as my arm that we could never convict of a crime in a Canadian court room. Should we invite them all to live in Canada permanently? ‘Cause if we can’t get rid of them once they’re here, more of them are going to come here.

It makes me wonder what we would do to Osama bin Laden if he applied for asylum in Canada. We wouldn’t grant him asylum, but once he’s in Canada, what could we do to him? We can’t deport him to Saudi Arabia (they’d torture him). Arguably we can’t deport him anywhere else either, since an argument could be made that just about every other country on Earth might torture him. He hasn’t committed any crimes in Canada, so we can’t lock him up here even if he has no legal right to be here.

I guess he can take Mr. Jaballah’s couch. I imagine he’ll still be here, no matter how long it takes to track binLaden now.

Ah, Canada. Come for the asylum. Stay for the government’s complete inability to get rid of you.

My question is, is there proof, that would stand up in a Canadian court of law, that Jaballah was involved in the attacks?

Is there any sort of proof, that would stand up in a Canadian court of law, that he is a terrorist conduit?

If there is, lock him up, other wise, I’m not very big on the say so of some other country…. I’m sure we all still remember what happened with Arar.