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		<title>By: Blog @ MoreWhat.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MoreWhat Matters: Today&#8217;s Blog List</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/09/21/when-all-else-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-124327</link>
		<dc:creator>Blog @ MoreWhat.com &#187; Blog Archive &#187; MoreWhat Matters: Today&#8217;s Blog List</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Sep 2007 06:43:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stageleft:. Life on the [lower] left side Ã‚Â» Blog Archive Ã‚Â» When All Else Fails [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('124327','Blog @ MoreWhat.com &amp;raquo; Blog Archive &amp;raquo; MoreWhat Matters: Today&amp;#8217;s Blog List'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('124327','Blog @ MoreWhat.com &amp;raquo; Blog Archive &amp;raquo; MoreWhat Matters: Today&amp;#8217;s Blog List','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; Stageleft:. Life on the &amp;#91;lower&amp;#93; left side &Atilde;‚&Acirc;&raquo; Blog Archive &Atilde;‚&Acirc;&raquo; When All Else Fails &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: balbulican</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/09/21/when-all-else-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-124225</link>
		<dc:creator>balbulican</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 11:53:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.&quot;

Butch may be correct. But not quite in the way he means.

The war in Vietnam was the first US war not to enjoy widespread popular support at home. I&#039;ve always wondered to what extent that was because it was the first war to occur in an era when the primary medium informing the world was visual, as opposed to auditory, and there was little or no lag separating events from the widespread distribution of the REAL images of war. It was the first US war fought in the age of Mcluhan, the first time voters SAW the direct consequences of their political servants (NOT masters) decisions on American soldiers and Vietnamese villages. 

And this is the first major YouTube war. It can&#039;t be edited or censored. 

I think media IS responsible for most the of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq. But that&#039;s because those opinions are now informed.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;124225&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;124225&#039;,&#039;balbulican&#039;,&#039;\&quot;Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.\&quot;\r\n\r\nButch may be correct. But not quite in the way he means.\r\n\r\nThe war in Vietnam was the first US war not to enjoy widespread popular support at home. I\&#039;ve always wondered to what extent that was because it was the first war to occur in an era when the primary medium informing the world was visual, as opposed to auditory, and there was little or no lag separating events from the widespread distribution of the REAL images of war. It was the first US war fought in the age of Mcluhan, the first time voters SAW the direct consequences of their political servants (NOT masters) decisions on American soldiers and Vietnamese villages. \r\n\r\nAnd this is the first major YouTube war. It can\&#039;t be edited or censored. \r\n\r\nI think media IS responsible for most the of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq. But that\&#039;s because those opinions are now informed.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.&#8221;</p>
<p>Butch may be correct. But not quite in the way he means.</p>
<p>The war in Vietnam was the first US war not to enjoy widespread popular support at home. I&#8217;ve always wondered to what extent that was because it was the first war to occur in an era when the primary medium informing the world was visual, as opposed to auditory, and there was little or no lag separating events from the widespread distribution of the REAL images of war. It was the first US war fought in the age of Mcluhan, the first time voters SAW the direct consequences of their political servants (NOT masters) decisions on American soldiers and Vietnamese villages. </p>
<p>And this is the first major YouTube war. It can&#8217;t be edited or censored. </p>
<p>I think media IS responsible for most the of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq. But that&#8217;s because those opinions are now informed.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('124225','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('124225','balbulican','\&quot;Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.\&quot;\r\n\r\nButch may be correct. But not quite in the way he means.\r\n\r\nThe war in Vietnam was the first US war not to enjoy widespread popular support at home. I\'ve always wondered to what extent that was because it was the first war to occur in an era when the primary medium informing the world was visual, as opposed to auditory, and there was little or no lag separating events from the widespread distribution of the REAL images of war. It was the first US war fought in the age of Mcluhan, the first time voters SAW the direct consequences of their political servants (NOT masters) decisions on American soldiers and Vietnamese villages. \r\n\r\nAnd this is the first major YouTube war. It can\'t be edited or censored. \r\n\r\nI think media IS responsible for most the of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq. But that\'s because those opinions are now informed.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Saskboy</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/09/21/when-all-else-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-124212</link>
		<dc:creator>Saskboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 03:17:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>*fingers in ears*
lalalalalala Iraq war good lalalala
lalalalalala listen to FoxNews they are Fair and Balanced, it&#039;s in their NAME! lalalala&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;124212&#039;,&#039;Saskboy&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;124212&#039;,&#039;Saskboy&#039;,&#039;*fingers in ears*\r\nlalalalalala Iraq war good lalalala\r\nlalalalalala listen to FoxNews they are Fair and Balanced, it\&#039;s in their NAME! lalalala&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>*fingers in ears*<br />
lalalalalala Iraq war good lalalala<br />
lalalalalala listen to FoxNews they are Fair and Balanced, it&#8217;s in their NAME! lalalala
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('124212','Saskboy'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('124212','Saskboy','*fingers in ears*\r\nlalalalalala Iraq war good lalalala\r\nlalalalalala listen to FoxNews they are Fair and Balanced, it\'s in their NAME! lalalala'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: stageleft</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/09/21/when-all-else-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-124203</link>
		<dc:creator>stageleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:23:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, I have noticed that the conservative set at LinkFest does things like that - you&#039;re not the first to bring it up, and you wouldn&#039;t have been the first to censor a dissenting opinion if you had gone down that road. Personally I find cyber &lt;i&gt;&quot;me to, me to, me to, I agree&quot;&lt;/i&gt; jerks pointless, others seem to enjoy it.

Possibly you have some ideas of what &lt;i&gt;&quot;American successes&quot;&lt;/i&gt; do justify and/or balance out the events that I noted, or any number of others that I could link.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;124203&#039;,&#039;stageleft&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;124203&#039;,&#039;stageleft&#039;,&#039;Yeah, I have noticed that the conservative set at LinkFest does things like that - you\&#039;re not the first to bring it up, and you wouldn\&#039;t have been the first to censor a dissenting opinion if you had gone down that road. Personally I find cyber &lt;i&gt;\&quot;me to, me to, me to, I agree\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt; jerks pointless, others seem to enjoy it.\r\n\r\nPossibly you have some ideas of what &lt;i&gt;\&quot;American successes\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt; do justify and\/or balance out the events that I noted, or any number of others that I could link.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, I have noticed that the conservative set at LinkFest does things like that &#8211; you&#8217;re not the first to bring it up, and you wouldn&#8217;t have been the first to censor a dissenting opinion if you had gone down that road. Personally I find cyber <i>&#8220;me to, me to, me to, I agree&#8221;</i> jerks pointless, others seem to enjoy it.</p>
<p>Possibly you have some ideas of what <i>&#8220;American successes&#8221;</i> do justify and/or balance out the events that I noted, or any number of others that I could link.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('124203','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('124203','stageleft','Yeah, I have noticed that the conservative set at LinkFest does things like that - you\'re not the first to bring it up, and you wouldn\'t have been the first to censor a dissenting opinion if you had gone down that road. Personally I find cyber &lt;i&gt;\&quot;me to, me to, me to, I agree\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt; jerks pointless, others seem to enjoy it.\r\n\r\nPossibly you have some ideas of what &lt;i&gt;\&quot;American successes\&quot;&lt;\/i&gt; do justify and\/or balance out the events that I noted, or any number of others that I could link.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Butch</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/09/21/when-all-else-fails/comment-page-1/#comment-124202</link>
		<dc:creator>Butch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 01:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Although I completely disagree with you regarding the Iraq war and the media I&#039;ll publish this post in support of free speech.

&lt;em&gt;Blaming the media for negative public opinion is a desperate and lame diversion&lt;/em&gt; Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.  

However, don&#039;t be disappointed if others at Linkfest Haven decline to publish you post.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;124202&#039;,&#039;Butch&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;124202&#039;,&#039;Butch&#039;,&#039;Although I completely disagree with you regarding the Iraq war and the media I\&#039;ll publish this post in support of free speech.\r\n\r\n&lt;em&gt;Blaming the media for negative public opinion is a desperate and lame diversion&lt;\/em&gt; Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.  \r\n\r\nHowever, don\&#039;t be disappointed if others at Linkfest Haven decline to publish you post.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Although I completely disagree with you regarding the Iraq war and the media I&#8217;ll publish this post in support of free speech.</p>
<p><em>Blaming the media for negative public opinion is a desperate and lame diversion</em> Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.  </p>
<p>However, don&#8217;t be disappointed if others at Linkfest Haven decline to publish you post.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('124202','Butch'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('124202','Butch','Although I completely disagree with you regarding the Iraq war and the media I\'ll publish this post in support of free speech.\r\n\r\n&lt;em&gt;Blaming the media for negative public opinion is a desperate and lame diversion&lt;\/em&gt; Um, the media IS responsible for most of the negative opinions regarding the war in Iraq.  \r\n\r\nHowever, don\'t be disappointed if others at Linkfest Haven decline to publish you post.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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