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		<title>By: Joe Blakesley</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122496</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blakesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dr. Dawg: It tooks 15 seconds in the GIMP using the oval select tool. (I didn&#039;t even bother to match up the pixel proportions in the blowup which would improve it a lot).

Most of the journalists (inc. bloggers) who covered the bottle got a still from the video uploaded to Youtube.  Those who did use the image from the still photographer (who i think is the one you can see in the video) used the thumbnail from the gallery instead of clicking on it to get the original image.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122496&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122496&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;,&#039;Dr. Dawg: It tooks 15 seconds in the GIMP using the oval select tool. (I didn\&#039;t even bother to match up the pixel proportions in the blowup which would improve it a lot).\r\n\r\nMost of the journalists (inc. bloggers) who covered the bottle got a still from the video uploaded to Youtube.  Those who did use the image from the still photographer (who i think is the one you can see in the video) used the thumbnail from the gallery instead of clicking on it to get the original image.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dr. Dawg: It tooks 15 seconds in the GIMP using the oval select tool. (I didn&#8217;t even bother to match up the pixel proportions in the blowup which would improve it a lot).</p>
<p>Most of the journalists (inc. bloggers) who covered the bottle got a still from the video uploaded to Youtube.  Those who did use the image from the still photographer (who i think is the one you can see in the video) used the thumbnail from the gallery instead of clicking on it to get the original image.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122496','Joe Blakesley'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122496','Joe Blakesley','Dr. Dawg: It tooks 15 seconds in the GIMP using the oval select tool. (I didn\'t even bother to match up the pixel proportions in the blowup which would improve it a lot).\r\n\r\nMost of the journalists (inc. bloggers) who covered the bottle got a still from the video uploaded to Youtube.  Those who did use the image from the still photographer (who i think is the one you can see in the video) used the thumbnail from the gallery instead of clicking on it to get the original image.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Dr.Dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122374</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Aug 2007 13:42:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Joe,

That&#039;s a hell of a nice gallery. How did you get the blow-up so clear--enhancement software? It&#039;s a Corona bottle, by the look of it.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122374&#039;,&#039;Dr.Dawg&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122374&#039;,&#039;Dr.Dawg&#039;,&#039;Joe,\r\n\r\nThat\&#039;s a hell of a nice gallery. How did you get the blow-up so clear--enhancement software? It\&#039;s a Corona bottle, by the look of it.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Joe,</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a hell of a nice gallery. How did you get the blow-up so clear&#8211;enhancement software? It&#8217;s a Corona bottle, by the look of it.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122374','Dr.Dawg'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122374','Dr.Dawg','Joe,\r\n\r\nThat\'s a hell of a nice gallery. How did you get the blow-up so clear--enhancement software? It\'s a Corona bottle, by the look of it.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Joe Blakesley</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122341</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blakesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 14:07:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve made a &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.flickr.com/photos/12119305@N03/sets/72157601654867299/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Flickr gallery&lt;/a&gt; with closeups of the bottle and arm mentioned in my previous comment.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122341&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122341&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;,&#039;I\&#039;ve made a &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/12119305@N03\/sets\/72157601654867299\/\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Flickr gallery&lt;\/a&gt; with closeups of the bottle and arm mentioned in my previous comment.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve made a <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/12119305@N03/sets/72157601654867299/" rel="nofollow">Flickr gallery</a> with closeups of the bottle and arm mentioned in my previous comment.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122341','Joe Blakesley'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122341','Joe Blakesley','I\'ve made a &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.flickr.com\/photos\/12119305@N03\/sets\/72157601654867299\/\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Flickr gallery&lt;\/a&gt; with closeups of the bottle and arm mentioned in my previous comment.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Joe Blakesley</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122336</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blakesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 12:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Canuck:  Two important things I noticed about that high-quality photo you posted. 

There are two different bottles.  There is a later photo of the same officer (jeans and black shirt) being arrested by his fellow officers in the same gallery .  This clearly shows that he has an empty &lt;strong&gt;glass&lt;/strong&gt; wine-type bottle in his right back pocket.  In the photo you posted his right pocket is obscured but his &lt;strong&gt;left&lt;/strong&gt; back pocket contains a plastic bottle containing a clear fluid (probably water).

Also, in the photo you posted, the tall undercover officer (who attempts to push over Mr. Coles) can be seen with his left sleeve rolled up, arm raised to the eye level of the riot police and the letters &quot;SQ&quot; felt-tipped on his arm (the next letter is almost totally obscured but a small part is visible that could be the end of final stroke of a P that has crossed slightly over the initial stroke).

From this, I can only assume the master plan B in the event of these not-so-smart undercover officers being caught was to write the name of their police force on their arm and point it at their fellow officers.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122336&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122336&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;,&#039;Canuck:  Two important things I noticed about that high-quality photo you posted. \r\n\r\nThere are two different bottles.  There is a later photo of the same officer (jeans and black shirt) being arrested by his fellow officers in the same gallery .  This clearly shows that he has an empty &lt;strong&gt;glass&lt;\/strong&gt; wine-type bottle in his right back pocket.  In the photo you posted his right pocket is obscured but his &lt;strong&gt;left&lt;\/strong&gt; back pocket contains a plastic bottle containing a clear fluid (probably water).\r\n\r\nAlso, in the photo you posted, the tall undercover officer (who attempts to push over Mr. Coles) can be seen with his left sleeve rolled up, arm raised to the eye level of the riot police and the letters \&quot;SQ\&quot; felt-tipped on his arm (the next letter is almost totally obscured but a small part is visible that could be the end of final stroke of a P that has crossed slightly over the initial stroke).\r\n\r\nFrom this, I can only assume the master plan B in the event of these not-so-smart undercover officers being caught was to write the name of their police force on their arm and point it at their fellow officers.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Canuck:  Two important things I noticed about that high-quality photo you posted. </p>
<p>There are two different bottles.  There is a later photo of the same officer (jeans and black shirt) being arrested by his fellow officers in the same gallery .  This clearly shows that he has an empty <strong>glass</strong> wine-type bottle in his right back pocket.  In the photo you posted his right pocket is obscured but his <strong>left</strong> back pocket contains a plastic bottle containing a clear fluid (probably water).</p>
<p>Also, in the photo you posted, the tall undercover officer (who attempts to push over Mr. Coles) can be seen with his left sleeve rolled up, arm raised to the eye level of the riot police and the letters &#8220;SQ&#8221; felt-tipped on his arm (the next letter is almost totally obscured but a small part is visible that could be the end of final stroke of a P that has crossed slightly over the initial stroke).</p>
<p>From this, I can only assume the master plan B in the event of these not-so-smart undercover officers being caught was to write the name of their police force on their arm and point it at their fellow officers.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122336','Joe Blakesley'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122336','Joe Blakesley','Canuck:  Two important things I noticed about that high-quality photo you posted. \r\n\r\nThere are two different bottles.  There is a later photo of the same officer (jeans and black shirt) being arrested by his fellow officers in the same gallery .  This clearly shows that he has an empty &lt;strong&gt;glass&lt;\/strong&gt; wine-type bottle in his right back pocket.  In the photo you posted his right pocket is obscured but his &lt;strong&gt;left&lt;\/strong&gt; back pocket contains a plastic bottle containing a clear fluid (probably water).\r\n\r\nAlso, in the photo you posted, the tall undercover officer (who attempts to push over Mr. Coles) can be seen with his left sleeve rolled up, arm raised to the eye level of the riot police and the letters \&quot;SQ\&quot; felt-tipped on his arm (the next letter is almost totally obscured but a small part is visible that could be the end of final stroke of a P that has crossed slightly over the initial stroke).\r\n\r\nFrom this, I can only assume the master plan B in the event of these not-so-smart undercover officers being caught was to write the name of their police force on their arm and point it at their fellow officers.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Dr.Dawg</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122329</link>
		<dc:creator>Dr.Dawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 11:09:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It sure as heck looks like a beer bottle to me (Sleeman&#039;s Clear?). Here&#039;s a blow-up I did:

http://tinyurl.com/2zt4o9

Now, Savard keeps changing his story. First, an &quot;extremist&quot; gave the cop a rock. Now, the cop was carrying it to blend in:

http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424

As people these days say, I call bull$hit.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122329&#039;,&#039;Dr.Dawg&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122329&#039;,&#039;Dr.Dawg&#039;,&#039;It sure as heck looks like a beer bottle to me (Sleeman\&#039;s Clear?). Here\&#039;s a blow-up I did:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/tinyurl.com\/2zt4o9\r\n\r\nNow, Savard keeps changing his story. First, an \&quot;extremist\&quot; gave the cop a rock. Now, the cop was carrying it to blend in:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.canada.com\/topics\/news\/national\/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424\r\n\r\nAs people these days say, I call bull$hit.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It sure as heck looks like a beer bottle to me (Sleeman&#8217;s Clear?). Here&#8217;s a blow-up I did:</p>
<p><a href="http://tinyurl.com/2zt4o9" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/2zt4o9</a></p>
<p>Now, Savard keeps changing his story. First, an &#8220;extremist&#8221; gave the cop a rock. Now, the cop was carrying it to blend in:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424" rel="nofollow">http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424</a></p>
<p>As people these days say, I call bull$hit.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122329','Dr.Dawg'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122329','Dr.Dawg','It sure as heck looks like a beer bottle to me (Sleeman\'s Clear?). Here\'s a blow-up I did:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/tinyurl.com\/2zt4o9\r\n\r\nNow, Savard keeps changing his story. First, an \&quot;extremist\&quot; gave the cop a rock. Now, the cop was carrying it to blend in:\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.canada.com\/topics\/news\/national\/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;amp;k=42424\r\n\r\nAs people these days say, I call bull$hit.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Joe Blakesley</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122324</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blakesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 09:52:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>RightÃ¢â‚¬Â¦. a protester gave him the rock, and I guess another one shoved a bottle into his pocket, and someone else tied a banana around his face</p></blockquote>
<p>It is possible, but if so, let&#8217;s see the video footage the police claim they have. Until they do so, Occam&#8217;s Razor combined with the footage we do have suggests the protestors account is more accurate.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also more inclined to believe the protestors as the police initially denied they were officers when they saw the video and they are still making statements that are almost certainly falsified by the video.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122324','Joe Blakesley'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122324','Joe Blakesley','&lt;blockquote&gt;Right&Atilde;&cent;&acirc;‚&not;&Acirc;&brvbar;. a protester gave him the rock, and I guess another one shoved a bottle into his pocket, and someone else tied a banana around his face&lt;\/blockquote&gt;\r\n\r\nIt is possible, but if so, let\'s see the video footage the police claim they have. Until they do so, Occam\'s Razor combined with the footage we do have suggests the protestors account is more accurate.\r\n\r\nI\'m also more inclined to believe the protestors as the police initially denied they were officers when they saw the video and they are still making statements that are almost certainly falsified by the video.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: stageleft</title>
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		<dc:creator>stageleft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 02:51:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Right.... a protester gave him the rock, and I guess another one shoved a bottle into his pocket, and someone else tied a banana around his face and told him to never take it off, and forced police boots onto his feet -- all while he wasn&#039;t looking no doubt.

If they initially lied about their involvement why should anyone believe what they say now?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122301&#039;,&#039;stageleft&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122301&#039;,&#039;stageleft&#039;,&#039;Right.... a protester gave him the rock, and I guess another one shoved a bottle into his pocket, and someone else tied a banana around his face and told him to never take it off, and forced police boots onto his feet -- all while he wasn\&#039;t looking no doubt.\r\n\r\nIf they initially lied about their involvement why should anyone believe what they say now?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Right&#8230;. a protester gave him the rock, and I guess another one shoved a bottle into his pocket, and someone else tied a banana around his face and told him to never take it off, and forced police boots onto his feet &#8212; all while he wasn&#8217;t looking no doubt.</p>
<p>If they initially lied about their involvement why should anyone believe what they say now?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122301','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122301','stageleft','Right.... a protester gave him the rock, and I guess another one shoved a bottle into his pocket, and someone else tied a banana around his face and told him to never take it off, and forced police boots onto his feet -- all while he wasn\'t looking no doubt.\r\n\r\nIf they initially lied about their involvement why should anyone believe what they say now?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What idiots (the cops).  You were right, I was wrong (although if you recall, I was on the fence of wishful thinking).

I don&#039;t have a problem with u/c cops in a demonstration.  I DO have a problem with the behaviour of those caught on tape, and with the initial denials etc.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122298&#039;,&#039;Candace&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122298&#039;,&#039;Candace&#039;,&#039;What idiots (the cops).  You were right, I was wrong (although if you recall, I was on the fence of wishful thinking).\r\n\r\nI don\&#039;t have a problem with u\/c cops in a demonstration.  I DO have a problem with the behaviour of those caught on tape, and with the initial denials etc.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What idiots (the cops).  You were right, I was wrong (although if you recall, I was on the fence of wishful thinking).</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have a problem with u/c cops in a demonstration.  I DO have a problem with the behaviour of those caught on tape, and with the initial denials etc.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122298','Candace'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122298','Candace','What idiots (the cops).  You were right, I was wrong (although if you recall, I was on the fence of wishful thinking).\r\n\r\nI don\'t have a problem with u\/c cops in a demonstration.  I DO have a problem with the behaviour of those caught on tape, and with the initial denials etc.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Joe Blakesley</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122293</link>
		<dc:creator>Joe Blakesley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Canada.com has some more quotes from Inspector Savard&lt;/a&gt; (who really doesn&#039;t seem to get the whole being on Youtube thing and how that might make it difficult to rewrite history):

&quot;The SQ did not arrest the three officers, but handcuffed them and removed them to question them.&quot;

So the handcuffing did not arrest them how? Even legally it is arrest unless the undercover officers gave them permission to do that. Now maybe the Inspector is saying they weren&#039;t lawfully arrested thereby admitting more crime by his officers.

&quot;The officers on the front line did not know (at first) that they were undercover officers.&quot;

Not half. View the video.

Interestingly, when googling this, I noticed that coincidentally &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2007/15/c7262.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the Canadian Police Association AGM is in Quebec this week&lt;/a&gt; (ending tomorrow).

Also, There&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.macleans.ca/canada/features/article.jsp?content=20070824_141541_6060&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;an interesting interview&lt;/a&gt; with a former Canadian police officer specialising in crowd control about the incident.  Basically, in his experience, he doesn&#039;t think anyone high up would have been stupid enough to order this. 

Also, The Green Party of Canada have condemned the incident and called for an investigation in &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2566&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt; an interesting blog post&lt;/a&gt;, and the union leader who confronted the officers is &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/08/24/ot-montebello-sq-070824.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;considering pressing charges&lt;/a&gt; against them for pushing him (as shown in the video).&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122293&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122293&#039;,&#039;Joe Blakesley&#039;,&#039;&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.canada.com\/topics\/news\/national\/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Canada.com has some more quotes from Inspector Savard&lt;\/a&gt; (who really doesn\&#039;t seem to get the whole being on Youtube thing and how that might make it difficult to rewrite history):\r\n\r\n\&quot;The SQ did not arrest the three officers, but handcuffed them and removed them to question them.\&quot;\r\n\r\nSo the handcuffing did not arrest them how? Even legally it is arrest unless the undercover officers gave them permission to do that. Now maybe the Inspector is saying they weren\&#039;t lawfully arrested thereby admitting more crime by his officers.\r\n\r\n\&quot;The officers on the front line did not know (at first) that they were undercover officers.\&quot;\r\n\r\nNot half. View the video.\r\n\r\nInterestingly, when googling this, I noticed that coincidentally &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.newswire.ca\/en\/releases\/archive\/August2007\/15\/c7262.html\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the Canadian Police Association AGM is in Quebec this week&lt;\/a&gt; (ending tomorrow).\r\n\r\nAlso, There\&#039;s &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.macleans.ca\/canada\/features\/article.jsp?content=20070824_141541_6060\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;an interesting interview&lt;\/a&gt; with a former Canadian police officer specialising in crowd control about the incident.  Basically, in his experience, he doesn\&#039;t think anyone high up would have been stupid enough to order this. \r\n\r\nAlso, The Green Party of Canada have condemned the incident and called for an investigation in &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.greenparty.ca\/en\/node\/2566\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt; an interesting blog post&lt;\/a&gt;, and the union leader who confronted the officers is &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/canada\/montreal\/story\/2007\/08\/24\/ot-montebello-sq-070824.html\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;considering pressing charges&lt;\/a&gt; against them for pushing him (as shown in the video).&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://www.canada.com/topics/news/national/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;k=42424" rel="nofollow">Canada.com has some more quotes from Inspector Savard</a> (who really doesn&#8217;t seem to get the whole being on Youtube thing and how that might make it difficult to rewrite history):</p>
<p>&#8220;The SQ did not arrest the three officers, but handcuffed them and removed them to question them.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the handcuffing did not arrest them how? Even legally it is arrest unless the undercover officers gave them permission to do that. Now maybe the Inspector is saying they weren&#8217;t lawfully arrested thereby admitting more crime by his officers.</p>
<p>&#8220;The officers on the front line did not know (at first) that they were undercover officers.&#8221;</p>
<p>Not half. View the video.</p>
<p>Interestingly, when googling this, I noticed that coincidentally <a href="http://www.newswire.ca/en/releases/archive/August2007/15/c7262.html" rel="nofollow">the Canadian Police Association AGM is in Quebec this week</a> (ending tomorrow).</p>
<p>Also, There&#8217;s <a href="http://www.macleans.ca/canada/features/article.jsp?content=20070824_141541_6060" rel="nofollow">an interesting interview</a> with a former Canadian police officer specialising in crowd control about the incident.  Basically, in his experience, he doesn&#8217;t think anyone high up would have been stupid enough to order this. </p>
<p>Also, The Green Party of Canada have condemned the incident and called for an investigation in <a href="http://www.greenparty.ca/en/node/2566" rel="nofollow"> an interesting blog post</a>, and the union leader who confronted the officers is <a href="http://www.cbc.ca/canada/montreal/story/2007/08/24/ot-montebello-sq-070824.html" rel="nofollow">considering pressing charges</a> against them for pushing him (as shown in the video).
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122293','Joe Blakesley'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122293','Joe Blakesley','&lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.canada.com\/topics\/news\/national\/story.html?id=8268c26b-d410-4233-bcde-5dafc369b077&amp;amp;k=42424\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;Canada.com has some more quotes from Inspector Savard&lt;\/a&gt; (who really doesn\'t seem to get the whole being on Youtube thing and how that might make it difficult to rewrite history):\r\n\r\n\&quot;The SQ did not arrest the three officers, but handcuffed them and removed them to question them.\&quot;\r\n\r\nSo the handcuffing did not arrest them how? Even legally it is arrest unless the undercover officers gave them permission to do that. Now maybe the Inspector is saying they weren\'t lawfully arrested thereby admitting more crime by his officers.\r\n\r\n\&quot;The officers on the front line did not know (at first) that they were undercover officers.\&quot;\r\n\r\nNot half. View the video.\r\n\r\nInterestingly, when googling this, I noticed that coincidentally &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.newswire.ca\/en\/releases\/archive\/August2007\/15\/c7262.html\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;the Canadian Police Association AGM is in Quebec this week&lt;\/a&gt; (ending tomorrow).\r\n\r\nAlso, There\'s &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.macleans.ca\/canada\/features\/article.jsp?content=20070824_141541_6060\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;an interesting interview&lt;\/a&gt; with a former Canadian police officer specialising in crowd control about the incident.  Basically, in his experience, he doesn\'t think anyone high up would have been stupid enough to order this. \r\n\r\nAlso, The Green Party of Canada have condemned the incident and called for an investigation in &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.greenparty.ca\/en\/node\/2566\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt; an interesting blog post&lt;\/a&gt;, and the union leader who confronted the officers is &lt;a href=\&quot;http:\/\/www.cbc.ca\/canada\/montreal\/story\/2007\/08\/24\/ot-montebello-sq-070824.html\&quot; rel=\&quot;nofollow\&quot;&gt;considering pressing charges&lt;\/a&gt; against them for pushing him (as shown in the video).'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: canuck</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122292</link>
		<dc:creator>canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:33:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I looked at some other photographs of that bottle and it isn&#039;t a beer or wine cooler bottle.

http://www.cupe.ca/gallery/montebello-monday/Montebello_20_ao_t_043

Go to CUPE&#039;s website if that photograph isn&#039;t clickable for enlargement. 

On closer examination, it appears to be a soft drink bottle with a white screw top.   I withdraw my suggestion it could be used for a Molotov cocktail.   The provocateur most likely drank from it to quench his thirst.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122292&#039;,&#039;canuck&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122292&#039;,&#039;canuck&#039;,&#039;I looked at some other photographs of that bottle and it isn\&#039;t a beer or wine cooler bottle.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cupe.ca\/gallery\/montebello-monday\/Montebello_20_ao_t_043\r\n\r\nGo to CUPE\&#039;s website if that photograph isn\&#039;t clickable for enlargement. \r\n\r\nOn closer examination, it appears to be a soft drink bottle with a white screw top.   I withdraw my suggestion it could be used for a Molotov cocktail.   The provocateur most likely drank from it to quench his thirst.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I looked at some other photographs of that bottle and it isn&#8217;t a beer or wine cooler bottle.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.cupe.ca/gallery/montebello-monday/Montebello_20_ao_t_043" rel="nofollow">http://www.cupe.ca/gallery/montebello-monday/Montebello_20_ao_t_043</a></p>
<p>Go to CUPE&#8217;s website if that photograph isn&#8217;t clickable for enlargement. </p>
<p>On closer examination, it appears to be a soft drink bottle with a white screw top.   I withdraw my suggestion it could be used for a Molotov cocktail.   The provocateur most likely drank from it to quench his thirst.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122292','canuck'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122292','canuck','I looked at some other photographs of that bottle and it isn\'t a beer or wine cooler bottle.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/www.cupe.ca\/gallery\/montebello-monday\/Montebello_20_ao_t_043\r\n\r\nGo to CUPE\'s website if that photograph isn\'t clickable for enlargement. \r\n\r\nOn closer examination, it appears to be a soft drink bottle with a white screw top.   I withdraw my suggestion it could be used for a Molotov cocktail.   The provocateur most likely drank from it to quench his thirst.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: canuck</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122291</link>
		<dc:creator>canuck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Aug 2007 01:08:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wouldn&#039;t an empty glass bottle be handy for making a Molotov cocktail?  Why on earth would a policeman even if he was undercover be carrying that?&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122291&#039;,&#039;canuck&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122291&#039;,&#039;canuck&#039;,&#039;Wouldn\&#039;t an empty glass bottle be handy for making a Molotov cocktail?  Why on earth would a policeman even if he was undercover be carrying that?&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wouldn&#8217;t an empty glass bottle be handy for making a Molotov cocktail?  Why on earth would a policeman even if he was undercover be carrying that?
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122291','canuck'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122291','canuck','Wouldn\'t an empty glass bottle be handy for making a Molotov cocktail?  Why on earth would a policeman even if he was undercover be carrying that?'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Bene D</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122279</link>
		<dc:creator>Bene D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 22:10:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The media conference is over.

An Surete du Quebec inspector says a protester gave them the rock.

Stockwell Day says today it was the protesters fault.

The bottle in the back pocket can be seen in more than one photo btw.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122279&#039;,&#039;Bene D&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122279&#039;,&#039;Bene D&#039;,&#039;The media conference is over.\r\n\r\nAn Surete du Quebec inspector says a protester gave them the rock.\r\n\r\nStockwell Day says today it was the protesters fault.\r\n\r\nThe bottle in the back pocket can be seen in more than one photo btw.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The media conference is over.</p>
<p>An Surete du Quebec inspector says a protester gave them the rock.</p>
<p>Stockwell Day says today it was the protesters fault.</p>
<p>The bottle in the back pocket can be seen in more than one photo btw.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122279','Bene D'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122279','Bene D','The media conference is over.\r\n\r\nAn Surete du Quebec inspector says a protester gave them the rock.\r\n\r\nStockwell Day says today it was the protesters fault.\r\n\r\nThe bottle in the back pocket can be seen in more than one photo btw.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Mentarch</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122276</link>
		<dc:creator>Mentarch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A public inquiry is definitely &lt;i&gt;de mise&lt;/i&gt;, here ...&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122276&#039;,&#039;Mentarch&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122276&#039;,&#039;Mentarch&#039;,&#039;A public inquiry is definitely &lt;i&gt;de mise&lt;\/i&gt;, here ...&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A public inquiry is definitely <i>de mise</i>, here &#8230;
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122276','Mentarch'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122276','Mentarch','A public inquiry is definitely &lt;i&gt;de mise&lt;\/i&gt;, here ...'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: Montebello - bootgate Quebec Safety Minister says police have some s&#8217;plaining to do at Bene Diction Blogs On</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122275</link>
		<dc:creator>Montebello - bootgate Quebec Safety Minister says police have some s&#8217;plaining to do at Bene Diction Blogs On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 21:31:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Stageleft noticedÃ‚Â one ofÃ‚Â three police officers who posed as Black Bloc protesters right down to the prop of the rock has a beer or wine cooler bottle in his back pocket. Like the bottle in the back pocket noticed by a commenter at Stageleft. There may be a reasonable explanation, it may not be a beer or wine cooler bottle, and the three undercover police may have been stone cold sober. [...]
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122275','Montebello - bootgate Quebec Safety Minister says police have some s&amp;#8217;plaining to do at Bene Diction Blogs On'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122275','Montebello - bootgate Quebec Safety Minister says police have some s&amp;#8217;plaining to do at Bene Diction Blogs On','&amp;#91;...&amp;#93; Stageleft noticed&Atilde;‚&Acirc;&nbsp;one of&Atilde;‚&Acirc;&nbsp;three police officers who posed as Black Bloc protesters right down to the prop of the rock has a beer or wine cooler bottle in his back pocket. Like the bottle in the back pocket noticed by a commenter at Stageleft. There may be a reasonable explanation, it may not be a beer or wine cooler bottle, and the three undercover police may have been stone cold sober. &amp;#91;...&amp;#93;'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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		<title>By: L. emersonia</title>
		<link>http://www.stageleft.info/2007/08/23/so-they-were-cops/comment-page-1/#comment-122267</link>
		<dc:creator>L. emersonia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 19:47:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am worried that this government release will disappear once the press meeting in Montreal today tries to distance the involvement of the RCMP in the security with the QPP at Montebello.

http://news.gc.ca/web/view/en/index.jsp?articleid=346399

Thanks for keeping it out in the public domain.&lt;div class=&quot;comment-remix-meta&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;replyto&quot; onclick=&quot;replyto(&#039;122267&#039;,&#039;L. emersonia&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Reply&lt;/a&gt;  - &lt;a href=&quot;#&quot; class=&quot;quote&quot; onclick=&quot;quote(&#039;122267&#039;,&#039;L. emersonia&#039;,&#039;I am worried that this government release will disappear once the press meeting in Montreal today tries to distance the involvement of the RCMP in the security with the QPP at Montebello.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/news.gc.ca\/web\/view\/en\/index.jsp?articleid=346399\r\n\r\nThanks for keeping it out in the public domain.&#039;); return false;&quot;&gt;Quote&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/div&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am worried that this government release will disappear once the press meeting in Montreal today tries to distance the involvement of the RCMP in the security with the QPP at Montebello.</p>
<p><a href="http://news.gc.ca/web/view/en/index.jsp?articleid=346399" rel="nofollow">http://news.gc.ca/web/view/en/index.jsp?articleid=346399</a></p>
<p>Thanks for keeping it out in the public domain.
<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('122267','L. emersonia'); return false;">Reply</a>  &#8211; <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('122267','L. emersonia','I am worried that this government release will disappear once the press meeting in Montreal today tries to distance the involvement of the RCMP in the security with the QPP at Montebello.\r\n\r\nhttp:\/\/news.gc.ca\/web\/view\/en\/index.jsp?articleid=346399\r\n\r\nThanks for keeping it out in the public domain.'); return false;">Quote</a></div>
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