What is the purpose of polls? Ask most people, and I think they will tell you that the purpose of having a poll is to try and accurately assess what the population thinks about a particular issue, such as who…

…. my audience consists of people who mostly know me.

Your audience is potentially everyone in the world with an Internet connection – if you want to use your words improperly then be prepared to deal with the consequences of that with better methods than oh woe is me, I am so misunderstood.

Just a note, using a freepers definition of freeping is much like getting George Bush to define torture, you might want to look a little further afield than that.

You might also want to consider how the Blogging Tories, who you implicated, feel about your use of the term freeping – maybe they did, maybe they didn’t……..

You won’t change many minds that way.

The freepers ruined the charity’s attempt to get anything close to an accurate result. People donate money to this charity to keep it going, SUZANNE. That’s how charities work. You and your kindergarten cohorts owe the Society an apology. You’re nothing more than cyber-vandals painting your partisan graffiti on the Beaver’s website.

Instead of trying to rewrite the English language, try taking responsibility for your own destructive actions. It’s nothing to crow about.

JB

Fair enough, but my audience consists of people who mostly know me. Words are used in ways at variance with their dictionary meaning all the time. Words that are new and slangy evolve all th time.

For instance, Free Dominion defines Freeping in the following way:

To peacefully but aggressively protest against left wing politicians, ideas and/or organizations.

http://www.freedominion.ca/grig/wmf.htm

Another example of the use of the word ‘freeping’:

If we were going to do some “freeping” for these bills, who, in your opinion, would be our best targets? Let’s get their email/fax info out here and go to it!

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=2593&sid=ca2da1ed8e54a77e45762dea2f3f0009

One simple idea, to start, is to simply “Freep” the leftist demonstrators, by positioning ourselves across from them, holding signs of support for our military, and support for the war on terrorism (and support for Israel). A quiet, peaceful, orderly vigil by responsible conservatives would show the contrast between us, “normal Canadians” and the crackpot and traitorous left.

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=7803

So as you can see, the meaning of the word “Freep” is not fixed.

but the definition of freeping.

No, there is no “the” definition of freeping– it’s a slang term that is used in a variety of ways. I just proved it.

“Then you, and your circle of acquaintances are wrong, you should be more careful about using words you don’t know the meaning of…. re-read that part about the written medium OK?”

Or maybe you should ask what words means. Because “freep” is a word that is used with different definitions.

– oh yeah, please quit with the oh woe is me I am being persecuted by the nasty boy from the lower-leftside b/s, nobody buys it.

I am telling you what I think. You do not believe me. You have no reason not to believe me when I say that I used the word with a different meaning in mind. Ergo, you are not interested in what I intended to mean.

there are people who do know the meaning of words like freep and freeping who may read your post and get the wrong idea, and that would sully both your good name and the Blogging Tories as a whole, wouldn’t it?

Freep is slang. Slang words are used in a variety of ways. Heck, words in the dictionary evolve. Or are you so rigid that you do not accept that?

And I’m not a Blogging Tory.

The left wants “freep” to mean the worst thing possible. Right-wingers do not all use it in the sense of multiple-voting on online polls.

I am telling you in the way I used the word– to me freeping means mass voting– not necessarily cheating.

Let me explain this to you one more time SUZANNE, freeping is cheating, I’m not sure how much more clear I can make that. How can people use a word that means one thing in a way that means something completely different and hope to make any sense or be understood? You are participating in a written medium, it is therefore exceedingly important that you use words properly – don’t you think? If you used the word freeping to mean mass voting, and you didn’t actually freep, then you used the word incorrectly – for petes sake, get a grip will you.

If you state that I believe freeping means that there is cheating necessarily involved, then you are making a slanderous statement about me.

No (again), I stated the definition of freeping, you said “all the freeping paid off”, and while you’re coming to grips with the definition of common words check out the difference between slander and liable – slander is oral, liable is written, and it doesn’t really matter how you understand that your claim has no legal merit anyway.

Words on the internet do involve.

And sometimes they even evolve, freeping is such a word. It emerged from the ‘net and evolved to mean a clear set of actions taken by people on the Internet to skew an online poll.

I don’t know that “Freep” has ever meant anything other than simply voting on Free Dominion.

Yes you do know, I gave you the definition of freeping, not an understood definition of freeping, not a cobbled together definition of freeping, but the definition of freeping. Did you mean to use the past tense, as in “I didn’t know that…..”? That written medium thing again ‘eh?

That is the way I’ve used that term and that is the way people in my circle of acquaintances use that word.

Then you, and your circle of acquaintances are wrong, you should be more careful about using words you don’t know the meaning of…. re-read that part about the written medium OK?

I have never used “freeped” in the sense of eliminating cookies and then re-voting in a poll. Some freepers do that– just like some voters in federal elections cheat– but that is not what I’d wanted– I’d simply wanted people to vote.

So as you understand it political parties who put on drives to get out the vote are freeping?

If you say anything else about my intentions, you’re are making a slanderous statement. You simply do not care to know what I really meant, you just want to find some way to condemn me.

We’ve already covered the slander thing, it’s not, have you considered using an online reference for your posts? I read what you said, and I know the definition of commonly used words like freep and freeping – connect the dots SUZANNE.

– oh yeah, please quit with the oh woe is me I am being persecuted by the nasty boy from the lower-leftside b/s, nobody buys it.

I would really suggest that you make use of the HTML strike tag and adjust your post accordingly – there are people who do know the meaning of words like freep and freeping who may read your post and get the wrong idea, and that would sully both your good name and the Blogging Tories as a whole, wouldn’t it?

If you won’t think of yourself SUZANNE think of the Tories, my god, will no one think of the Blogging Tories?!?!?!?!

a) Online polls have no validity. I no more believe that a random sampling of Canadians would name Pierre Trudeau as the “Worst Canadian” than I believe a random sampling of Canadians would name Tommy Douglas as “Greatest Canadian”. What both these polls actually show could more accurately be described as “Icon Most Usefully Glorified/Reviled at This Point In Time By A Partisan, Organized and Web-Savvy Political Coterie”. That’s it, that’s all.

b) As noted above, these things shed no light and change no opinions. To brag about “your side” winning one is infantile, whether among the URQs or the LLQs….they just profide cheap fodder for journalists and bloggers. There is, however, in my opinion, something hypocritical about freeping a poll, bragging about one’s success in doing so, and simultaneously claiming that the results (at least the ones that you like) have some sort of validity.

c) The exercise is rendered even more foolish by the absence of a definition for “worst” “Canadian”.

Some folks obviously interpreted that to mean “most evil human being with a Canadian passport”; some interpreted it to mean “person whose political vision is most at odds with my own.”

d) Candace, I can point to legislation by every Canadian Prime Minister on the books that led to policies that caused death or depression. I think top of the line might be Jean Chretien, whose White Paper paralyzed the development of an alternative approach to Canadian/Aboriginal relations. You could say the same of Mulroney’s NAFTA, or his cancellation of the Trail Radio Program (which led directly to a number of deaths in the northern provinces).

Every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Those Prime Ministers who act…who actually take giant steps…tend to be more admired AND more reviled than their less interesting predecessors. Trudeau lived a big life, driven by big ideas. You don’t like a lot of them. As it happens, I do. I don’t feel the same revulsion about Mr. Harper because so far he hasn’t actually done anything very significant. But I’ll give him time.

Whooee! Canadace, when you an’ SUZANNE are writin’ yer letters of apology to Canada’s History Society, you better write another one to the French and Mahaffey families. Your comment is a giant slap in the face to real victims.

Here in my neck o’ the woods, we gotta buncha crybaby tobacka farmers threatenin’ to commit suicide if the gummint don’t give in to their blackmail demands of $1 million a-piece to quit growin’ poison. Are you sayin’ Harper’ll be responsible fer them suicides like Troodough is responsible fer oilpatch suicides? First Nations youth are more suicidal than millionaire farmers and out of work oilpatch workers. Their issues transcend every gummint since confederation. Let’s blame Sir John A. fer gettin’ that particular ball rollin’. Sir John A. as worst Canajun? The Queen of Canada as worst Canajun?

JB

Actually, it was Ed Broadbent’s idea, not the PCs.

And yes, I wrote Trudeau in on my vote – he negatively affected far more people than Bernardo or Olsen, and if you count the suicides resulting from the NEP…

I like that. Exactly like Bill Clinton redefining “sex”.

‘Yes, it’s the satisfaction of seeing those names as “worst Canadians”, which I and many other people feel is deserved, and to have the liberal MSM have to report it…”

But that’s meaningless, SUZANNE, if the “finding” was the result of organized, mass mobilization of a group to swing the vote
“… and for people to know that not everyone worships these two.”

SUZANNE…I can think of two people in Canada who think that “those two” are “worshipped” by “everyone”. That would be you, and possibly Canadian Sentinel. The rest of us, it seems, are a bit more familiar with history.

See, here’s what’s silly. A bunch of you organized to swing this poll. But you see, you didn’t change anyone’s mind. You changed a number. The folks who hated Trudeau still hate him. The folks who admired him still admire him. What on earth do you imagine you’ve accomplished?

“Canada’s National History Society
Established in 1994 as a charitable organization devoted to popularizing Canadian history, Canada’s National History Society aims to make Canadians more aware and appreciative of their past.”

Read all about the good things this charity does:
http://www.historysociety.ca/abo.asp?subsection=his.

The society’s attempt to measure public opinion on an historical topic has been turned into a laughingstock by meanspirited partisans. These good people didn’t deserve what was done to them.

JB

I have never used “freeped” in the sense of eliminating cookies and then re-voting in a poll. Some freepers do that– just like some voters in federal elections cheat– but that is not what I’d wanted– I’d simply wanted people to vote.

If you say anything else about my intentions, you’re are making a slanderous statement. You simply do not care to know what I really meant, you just want to find some way to condemn me.

“Is it just satisfaction at the visual experience of seeing the names “Trudeau” and “Morgentaler” in the top three underneath the heading “Worst Canadians”? ”

Yes, it’s the satisfaction of seeing those names as “worst Canadians”, which I and many other people feel is deserved, and to have the liberal MSM have to report it, and for people to know that not everyone worships these two. It’s great for the MSM to wake up to opinions other than left-wing ones.

“Really now, and if you were to put some sort of political label on yourself what would it be then?”

Just social conservative. A right-winger, a right-of-center person, but conservative is not entirely accurate.

As for women and abortion and jailtime: I think that in the beginning women will not see jailtime. But as unborn children are progressively recognized as equal, eventually women will be subject to criminal penalties. Many will escape jailtime because it is the testimony of the women that often leads to the conviction of the abortionist. That is a minority view in the pro-life movement. Many pro-lifers believe women are co-erced into having abortions to begin with. I’d also like to note that very few women ever face jailtime for infanticide in Canada.

I’d be worried if my beliefs had to be validated by cheating. But that’s just me!

Ah well, thanks for your response balbulican. It doesn’t appear that SUZANNE will be forthcoming with an answer to my question, so I’ll have to use the default answer: “Because they’re dumb as a bag of braindead hammers”.