Comments on: The New “Conservative” Contempt for Law http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/ Fri, 19 Mar 2010 19:43:10 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Mentarch http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-119263 Mentarch Thu, 19 Jul 2007 05:52:55 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-119263 Incompetents always support/defend other incompetents - this is the <a href="http://pov-mentarch1.blogspot.com/2007/06/eight-principles-of-incompetence.html" rel="nofollow">Fifth Principle of Incompetence</a>, once again verified.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('119263','Mentarch'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('119263','Mentarch','Incompetents always support\/defend other incompetents - this is the <a href=\"http:\/\/pov-mentarch1.blogspot.com\/2007\/06\/eight-principles-of-incompetence.html\" rel=\"nofollow\">Fifth Principle of Incompetence<\/a>, once again verified.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Incompetents always support/defend other incompetents – this is the Fifth Principle of Incompetence, once again verified.
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]]> By: Candace http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-119036 Candace Tue, 17 Jul 2007 13:11:59 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-119036 Thanks, B, but I try to post about things I either (a) care about or (b) know about. I haven't cared enough about this whole thing to come up with anything worth writing, let alone reading. I am, however, amazed at the angst across the right side of the sphere over this. The idiot was caught on tape removing evidence (seen by prosecutors or not). When I first saw that, it brought to mind an old Cheers scene, when Kristie Alley's character realized she'd been duped by her fiance into revealing corporate secrets and cried out "I am too stupid to live!" (Note that this is not a remark intended to suggest, recommend or support any violent act!)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('119036','Candace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('119036','Candace','Thanks, B, but I try to post about things I either (a) care about or (b) know about. I haven\'t cared enough about this whole thing to come up with anything worth writing, let alone reading. I am, however, amazed at the angst across the right side of the sphere over this.\r\n\r\nThe idiot was caught on tape removing evidence (seen by prosecutors or not). When I first saw that, it brought to mind an old Cheers scene, when Kristie Alley\'s character realized she\'d been duped by her fiance into revealing corporate secrets and cried out \"I am too stupid to live!\" (Note that this is not a remark intended to suggest, recommend or support any violent act!)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks, B, but I try to post about things I either (a) care about or (b) know about. I haven’t cared enough about this whole thing to come up with anything worth writing, let alone reading. I am, however, amazed at the angst across the right side of the sphere over this.

The idiot was caught on tape removing evidence (seen by prosecutors or not). When I first saw that, it brought to mind an old Cheers scene, when Kristie Alley’s character realized she’d been duped by her fiance into revealing corporate secrets and cried out “I am too stupid to live!” (Note that this is not a remark intended to suggest, recommend or support any violent act!)

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]]> By: balbulican http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118943 balbulican Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:11:24 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118943 Oh, God, me too. The moment I posted on it I wondered why I was I was feeding the beast. Sigh. Mea Culpa, Candace, and kudos for being the one blogger in the western hemisphere for avoiding the temptation. You're a better man than me. (I just realized that might sound sarcastic. Believe me, C., it's not.)<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118943','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118943','balbulican','Oh, God, me too. The moment I posted on it I wondered why I was I was feeding the beast. Sigh. Mea Culpa, Candace, and kudos for being the one blogger in the western hemisphere for avoiding the temptation. You\'re a better man than me.\r\n\r\n(I just realized that might sound sarcastic. Believe me, C., it\'s not.)'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Oh, God, me too. The moment I posted on it I wondered why I was I was feeding the beast. Sigh. Mea Culpa, Candace, and kudos for being the one blogger in the western hemisphere for avoiding the temptation. You’re a better man than me.

(I just realized that might sound sarcastic. Believe me, C., it’s not.)

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]]> By: Candace http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118942 Candace Tue, 17 Jul 2007 00:09:28 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118942 Sorry, Conrad, but I work for a public company and have ridiculous amounts of papertrails/makework to do thanks to the Enrons of the world, so have no sympathy. Sauce for the goose, buckaroo. I haven't paid much attention to the trial and am frankly glad it's over as the topic was getting mindnumbingly boring to me.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118942','Candace'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118942','Candace','Sorry, Conrad, but I work for a public company and have ridiculous amounts of papertrails\/makework to do thanks to the Enrons of the world, so have no sympathy.\r\n\r\nSauce for the goose, buckaroo. \r\n\r\nI haven\'t paid much attention to the trial and am frankly glad it\'s over as the topic was getting mindnumbingly boring to me.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Sorry, Conrad, but I work for a public company and have ridiculous amounts of papertrails/makework to do thanks to the Enrons of the world, so have no sympathy.

Sauce for the goose, buckaroo.

I haven’t paid much attention to the trial and am frankly glad it’s over as the topic was getting mindnumbingly boring to me.

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]]> By: balbulican http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118892 balbulican Mon, 16 Jul 2007 15:17:37 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118892 Whoever said he outgrew his country hasn't been keeping track of Canadian statistics on obesity, obviously.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118892','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118892','balbulican','Whoever said he outgrew his country hasn\'t been keeping track of Canadian statistics on obesity, obviously.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Whoever said he outgrew his country hasn’t been keeping track of Canadian statistics on obesity, obviously.
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]]> By: Throbbin http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118885 Throbbin Mon, 16 Jul 2007 14:48:30 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118885 Aww, poor Conrad. He was angry and it was OUR fault, it makes so much sense now!<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118885','Throbbin'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118885','Throbbin','Aww, poor Conrad. He was angry and it was OUR fault, it makes so much sense now!'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Aww, poor Conrad. He was angry and it was OUR fault, it makes so much sense now!
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]]> By: stageleft http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118876 stageleft Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:59:10 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118876 A criminal? My goodness no, if you read the National Post you'll find he's just <a href="http://www.canada.com/nationalpost/news/story.html?id=eb0aeec1-870d-4a25-90ca-76405441360b" rel="nofollow">a hurt and bewildered soul</a> who outgrew his country <blockquote>He simply outgrew the country, at least in his own mind, and it hurt and bewildered him as much as it did us. And so, in his blustering, unpleasant way, Conrad came to represent those who wished for a bigger country, a country in which people could lead larger lives.</blockquote><div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118876','stageleft'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118876','stageleft','A criminal? My goodness no, if you read the National Post you\'ll find he\'s just <a href=\"http:\/\/www.canada.com\/nationalpost\/news\/story.html?id=eb0aeec1-870d-4a25-90ca-76405441360b\" rel=\"nofollow\">a hurt and bewildered soul<\/a> who outgrew his country\r\n\r\n<blockquote>He simply outgrew the country, at least in his own mind, and it hurt and bewildered him as much as it did us. And so, in his blustering, unpleasant way, Conrad came to represent those who wished for a bigger country, a country in which people could lead larger lives.<\/blockquote>'); return false;">Quote</a></div> A criminal? My goodness no, if you read the National Post you’ll find he’s just a hurt and bewildered soul who outgrew his country

He simply outgrew the country, at least in his own mind, and it hurt and bewildered him as much as it did us. And so, in his blustering, unpleasant way, Conrad came to represent those who wished for a bigger country, a country in which people could lead larger lives.

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]]> By: JimBobby http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118874 JimBobby Mon, 16 Jul 2007 13:42:00 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118874 Black is a convicted felon who showed contempt for Canada and contempt for the law. He deserves absolutely no support from Canadians. Canadians are among the stockholders who were ripped off by Black. I cannot understand why any Canadian would support this criminal. Monarchy lovers should be aghast at the shame his Lordship has brought to the peerage. Big business lovers should be aghast at the disrepute and suspicion Black has brought to top level CEO's everywhere. Canadian patriots should be aghast at the way Black denounced his Canadian citizenship when it suited his personal ambitions. How can patriotic Canadian conservative monarchists have any respect for a man who has done so much to discredit their cause? The Cons are always sayin' they ain't afraid to call a spade a spade. Howcum they're afraid to call a crook a crook? JB<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118874','JimBobby'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118874','JimBobby','Black is a convicted felon who showed contempt for Canada and contempt for the law. He deserves absolutely no support from Canadians. Canadians are among the stockholders who were ripped off by Black. \r\n\r\nI cannot understand why any Canadian would support this criminal. \r\n\r\nMonarchy lovers should be aghast at the shame his Lordship has brought to the peerage. \r\n\r\nBig business lovers should be aghast at the disrepute and suspicion Black has brought to top level CEO\'s everywhere. \r\n\r\nCanadian patriots should be aghast at the way Black denounced his Canadian citizenship when it suited his personal ambitions.\r\n\r\nHow can patriotic Canadian conservative monarchists have any respect for a man who has done so much to discredit their cause? \r\n\r\nThe Cons are always sayin\' they ain\'t afraid to call a spade a spade. Howcum they\'re afraid to call a crook a crook?\r\n\r\nJB'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Black is a convicted felon who showed contempt for Canada and contempt for the law. He deserves absolutely no support from Canadians. Canadians are among the stockholders who were ripped off by Black.

I cannot understand why any Canadian would support this criminal.

Monarchy lovers should be aghast at the shame his Lordship has brought to the peerage.

Big business lovers should be aghast at the disrepute and suspicion Black has brought to top level CEO’s everywhere.

Canadian patriots should be aghast at the way Black denounced his Canadian citizenship when it suited his personal ambitions.

How can patriotic Canadian conservative monarchists have any respect for a man who has done so much to discredit their cause?

The Cons are always sayin’ they ain’t afraid to call a spade a spade. Howcum they’re afraid to call a crook a crook?

JB

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]]> By: Arwen http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118770 Arwen Sun, 15 Jul 2007 21:23:58 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118770 Well, now. Hey now. Given the sheer numbers of black kids in the states and aboriginal kids in Canada serving time relative to the rate of charges vs. the white population, I'd say the system is flawed and often doesn't produce justice for significant percentages of the population. And what with SCOTUS deciding that women's lives but not health are worthy of protection, now if you're suffering toxemia in the States you can be allowed to suffer serious and permanent dain bramage in order to give birth to corpses. On the other hand, non-marginalized communities that can afford fancy-pants defense teams? They are who the law is built for and on. When CEOs are convicted, they are hoisted by their own petards. (And abortion of various sorts has always been available to the rich, so I'm not terribly worried about Nicole Richie becoming victim to toxemia, nor her doctor going down for baby-murder in the case that she gets near fatally sick and he chooses to save her brain.) I haven't seen twenty-five years of systematic analysis that might suggest that rich white CEOs are suffering overmuch legal discrimination. However, I defend the right to have knee-jerk suspicions of the system. They're just going to have to back it up with some aim to universal principles of justice as opposed to individual cases where someone feels hard done by. That's not happening. Because the right IS all about the individual.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118770','Arwen'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118770','Arwen','Well, now. Hey now. Given the sheer numbers of black kids in the states and aboriginal kids in Canada serving time relative to the rate of charges vs. the white population, I\'d say the system is flawed and often doesn\'t produce justice for significant percentages of the population. And what with SCOTUS deciding that women\'s lives but not health are worthy of protection, now if you\'re suffering toxemia in the States you can be allowed to suffer serious and permanent dain bramage in order to give birth to corpses. \r\n\r\nOn the other hand, non-marginalized communities that can afford fancy-pants defense teams? They are who the law is built for and on. When CEOs are convicted, they are hoisted by their own petards. (And abortion of various sorts has always been available to the rich, so I\'m not terribly worried about Nicole Richie becoming victim to toxemia, nor her doctor going down for baby-murder in the case that she gets near fatally sick and he chooses to save her brain.) \r\n\r\nI haven\'t seen twenty-five years of systematic analysis that might suggest that rich white CEOs are suffering overmuch legal discrimination. \r\n\r\nHowever, I defend the right to have knee-jerk suspicions of the system. They\'re just going to have to back it up with some aim to universal principles of justice as opposed to individual cases where someone feels hard done by. That\'s not happening. Because the right IS all about the individual.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well, now. Hey now. Given the sheer numbers of black kids in the states and aboriginal kids in Canada serving time relative to the rate of charges vs. the white population, I’d say the system is flawed and often doesn’t produce justice for significant percentages of the population. And what with SCOTUS deciding that women’s lives but not health are worthy of protection, now if you’re suffering toxemia in the States you can be allowed to suffer serious and permanent dain bramage in order to give birth to corpses.

On the other hand, non-marginalized communities that can afford fancy-pants defense teams? They are who the law is built for and on. When CEOs are convicted, they are hoisted by their own petards. (And abortion of various sorts has always been available to the rich, so I’m not terribly worried about Nicole Richie becoming victim to toxemia, nor her doctor going down for baby-murder in the case that she gets near fatally sick and he chooses to save her brain.)

I haven’t seen twenty-five years of systematic analysis that might suggest that rich white CEOs are suffering overmuch legal discrimination.

However, I defend the right to have knee-jerk suspicions of the system. They’re just going to have to back it up with some aim to universal principles of justice as opposed to individual cases where someone feels hard done by. That’s not happening. Because the right IS all about the individual.

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]]> By: balbulican http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118748 balbulican Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:31:54 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118748 Thanks, Doc. By pure coincidence, as you wrote that, I was adding a comment to your excellent piece as well.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118748','balbulican'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118748','balbulican','Thanks, Doc. By pure coincidence, as you wrote that, I was adding a comment to your excellent piece as well.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Thanks, Doc. By pure coincidence, as you wrote that, I was adding a comment to your excellent piece as well.
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]]> By: Dr.Dawg http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/comment-page-1/#comment-118744 Dr.Dawg Sun, 15 Jul 2007 16:25:21 +0000 http://www.stageleft.info/2007/07/15/the-new-conservative-contempt-for-law/#comment-118744 Well done. A hat-tip for you over at my place. I'm collecting just such egregious instances of kneepad commentary as Dr. Roy and The Politic have provided.<div class="comment-remix-meta"><a href="#" class="replyto" onclick="replyto('118744','Dr.Dawg'); return false;">Reply</a> - <a href="#" class="quote" onclick="quote('118744','Dr.Dawg','Well done. A hat-tip for you over at my place. I\'m collecting just such egregious instances of kneepad commentary as Dr. Roy and The Politic have provided.'); return false;">Quote</a></div> Well done. A hat-tip for you over at my place. I’m collecting just such egregious instances of kneepad commentary as Dr. Roy and The Politic have provided.
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