In Other Less Discussed News
The execution of three Christian militants in Palu, Indonesia has resulted in Christian mobs taking to the streets by the thousands where they broke into jails, freed prisoners, burned tires, threw rocks, burned houses, and destroyed property.
The demonstrations were to protest the execution of Christian militants who were found guilty of leading another mob that killed more than 200 people at an Islamic boarding school in 2001.
In other monotheistic religion news a Jewish Rabbi in the West Bank has called upon the Israeli government to kill all male Palestinians over the age of 13
“We have to make sure that no Palestinian individual remains under our occupation. If they (Palestinians) escape then it is good; but if anyone of them remains, then he should be exterminated”
We have been unable to locate public statements by moderate Christians and Jews condemning these acts of extremism; is this an indicator of silent support for the extremists?
…. we can only hope that it is not.
Those Christians discussed in the article were a bunch of terrorists if I have ever seen any. As Bill O’Reailly likes to put it – Simply asking for Name, Rank, and Crusade number is not enough!
I hope to see this event discussed in Monday’s talking points.
I’m neither Christian nor Jew, but I think a fanatic, no matter what denomination, is still a fanatic. We need a succint word to sum up any asshole who commits atrocities in the name of any religion. How about “theonazis”?
Next time some wanker claims that Christins wouldn’t act like the Muslim mobs pissed at the Danish Cartoons\Pope’s idiotic comments, I’ll point them to this.
Thank god I’m an atheist.
“In the most well-known of such attacks, 29 Palestinians praying in the Ibrahimi Mosque in Hebron were gunned down by Baruch Goldstein, a follower of Kahane, in 1994, with Israeli soldiers looking on and allowing the gunman to reload his automatic machine gun and continue killing innocent civilians. In response to that massacre, the Israeli authorities punished the Palestinian victims by taking over the Ibrahimi mosque and turning half of it into a synagogue, where Israeli settlers go to pray each week. And each year, on the anniversary of the massacre, Israeli settlers in Hebron dress up like Baruch Goldstein and parade through the streets of Hebron, firing guns in the air.”
I don’t know if I can believe this. It’s more horrific than anything else I’ve ever heard in this conflict.
Sorry to meander off-topic, but has anyone been watching the Canadian Sentinel go completley bonkers? He has no waged war on leftists! it is unbelievable stuff over there right now. I love it.
Ya see what I get for reading your comment, I don’t go over there but since you said he was going “completely” bonkers I thought I’d take a look – his MSM Ignored Pro-Israel Rally With 40,000 Marchers post is quite telling, especially the
I checked his profile (the about me link isn’t a link) and found the following
Another anonymous blogger hiding behind a picture of a tiger and pretending to be the tough guy – why am I not surprised?
For a more amusing psychological portrait, try counting his references to “Poop” or “crap”.
Leftists are “ugly, malevolent crapheads” who indulge in “poo-chucking.”
Ahmadinejad is “President Poopypants”.
Stageleft readers are “poopheads”. Jack Layton is a “poopheaded clown” AND a “poophead.”
He suggested that I go “throw poopoo” at the mainstream media.
He muses ” I, too, find it odd that they were never shown in the bathroom on Star Trek. No bathrooms! Bizarre … and fascinating.”
It’s beyond pathological. I think there must be some deep seated toilet training traumas buried in the poor dude’s psyche.
Pete, that sounds very, very nasty. Its bad enough to begin with, but the IDF just watching, thats messed up.
I like “theonazis”…what about “theosassins”?
You should post a link to that article over at Captain Poopasouraus’ (the bodybuilder) site.
Why do I picture CS as some pimple-ridden redneck sitting at his computer in his boxers? I just don’t get bodybuilder when I read his insecure rants.
The thing that I don’t get is that he openly admits that his family is liberal in their worldview. Does he really think all those things about his own family? When I brought it up during one of his posts, he told me the comment was out of line. No doubt. No wonder he hides his writings from his family.
I feel that poop is being neglected for snot and pee, here. Urine-stained sweat-soaked snot-dripping canker-face! Piss-filled cum-bubble! Those are epithets. Poopyhead. Harrumph.
Of course, “girls” love it when you get tough and call someone a poopy-head. If those girls are seven, for example.
“In Palu, Bishop Joseph Suwatan, whose diocese oversees North and Central Sulawesi, urged the faithful in Palu to remain calm.”
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“IMEMC is a media center developed in collaboration between Palestinian and International journalists to provide an English language media coverage of Israel-Palestine.
Why IMEMC is a good choice?
IMEMC provides a fair and comprehensive coverage of events and developments in Israel-Palestine.
Being a joint Palestinian-International effort, IMEMC combines Palestinian journalists’ deep understanding of the context, history, and the socio-political environment with International journalists’ skills in non-partisan reporting.”
Yes IrC, the bishop urged the faithful to remain calm – did he condem their actions?
Are you disputing events or, with your cut ‘n paste, somehow trying to cast doubt on the source and hoping that’s enough?
I’m waiting for IrC to condemn those crazy-assed Christian militants for their actions. And that crazy-assed murderous rabbi as well.
IrC, are they crazy-assed, or not so crazy-assed?
Throbbin – they are crazy-assed. I vote for theosassins
“We have been unable to locate public statements by moderate Christians and Jews condemning these acts of extremism; is this an indicator of silent support for the extremists?
…. we can only hope that it is not.”
Probably because it has not been widely reported.
I’m Christian and I’m about as moderate as it gets and I condemn any type of terrorist violence. Mainstream Christians do. So do the leadership of their Churches.
And don’t try to give me the Pat Robertson/Hugo Chavez red-herring either. The man is a fool nowhere near mainstream Christianity, and was roundly laughed at by the majority of North American Christians for what he said.
>Yes IrC, the bishop urged the faithful to remain calm – did he condem their actions?
The article doesn’t say.
>IrC, are they crazy-assed, or not so crazy-assed?
They’re crazy-assed. But you may notice they’re being crazy-assed about their own people – Christians elsewhere didn’t call for punishments and start burning buildings.
>Are you disputing events or, with your cut ‘n paste, somehow trying to cast doubt on the source and hoping that’s enough?
I’m just wondering if you have any particular criteria for higher or lower degrees of skepticism. I’m almost certain you don’t take Bush administration press releases at face value. What exactly makes a group with an agenda trustworthy and reliable enough in your eyes for you to parrot its news and agree with it without further inquiry?
“Next time some wanker claims that Christins wouldn’t act like the Muslim mobs pissed at the Danish Cartoons\Pope’s idiotic comments, I’ll point them to this.
Thank god I’m an atheist.”
If you try to equate cartoons with public execution, you will be ridiculed Mike….again.
“I’m just wondering if you have any particular criteria for higher or lower degrees of skepticism.”
I’d say yes. Of the three outlets under discussion, I would rank Reuters (the source of the first story) higher than either a Bush press release or the IMEMC (source of the second story). Both the latter have strongly ideological biases that they acknowledge.
I suppose I could have used any number of different links to the story IrC, would you have been happier if I used the link in The Boston Hearld that talked about “machete-wielding mobs”?
… or maybe the Fox News article that noted how the mobs “looted Muslim owned shops”?
You’re right there IrC, they’re more propaganda than news. That is, after all, the purpose of a news release isn’t it?
See above, I noted this story in multiple news sources. Would you have bothered asking that question if I has used Fox News as the source instead of the one I did, or did you just see the word Palestinian and jump to the immediate conclusion that if they were involved it must be Arab distortion and propaganda?
The question “I’m just wondering if you have any particular criteria for higher or lower degrees of skepticism” was directed wholly at the IMEMC article. If you want to throw your weight behind the provenance of that story, feel free.
That horrible mob, rampaging! Freeing prisoners! All over the execution of three prisoners. What, they couldn’t find a real reason to riot, like cartoons mocking Christianity?
Stageleft: Maybe you should head on over and crack some protester skulls in the service of the state.
This is your way of justifying Christian terrorism, Peter?
How is this any different from any other terrorism? Or would you rather not answer that question?
That’s hilarious. Did you also consider everyone involved in the L.A. riots to be terrorists? I heard that bin Laden was in L.A. at the time, and he smashed a storefront window in order to steal a second-hand TV set.
Peter, have you ever read the works of Saki? His real name was Hector Hugh Munro. A wonderful short story writer of the early twentieth century. I ask because you occasionally channel the persona of Reginald, one of Saki’s most memorable characters, a would-be Wildean epigrammatist without the depth to actually develop or debate an idea, but who excels at the pseudo-profound dismissive jibe.
mike,
“Next time some wanker claims that Christins wouldn’t act like the Muslim mobs pissed at the Danish Cartoons\Pope’s idiotic comments, I’ll point them to this.
Thank god I’m an atheist.â€
Riight, and no athiest ever murdered any one who didn’t agree with them….(cough) pol pot…
Extremism is extremisn is extremism is extremism Peter, don’t matter who, or where, it happens, it’s extremism – don’t ‘cha think?
Mike, an atheist, is voicing his relief that atheists are not prone to fits of religious rage. I thought that was fairly clear.
This sloppy generalizing sure makes for some pointless non-discussion.
Thanks Balb, that’s what I was saying…
Jeff, do you remember why those three guys were sentneced to death? For leading another, earlier Christian mob against Mulsims, killing 200 of them. That sounds like terrorism to me.
I also wished to indicate that on many right-wing blogs and in the comments sections of other blogs, there are those that say this kind of violence is inherent in Islam. This incident meerely points out that it is not, that Christians, some of whom hold themselves to be so much better than Muslims, are just as capable.
I don’t think this kind of violence is inherent in one religion or any religion. It is extremism.
But as was pointed out in “Can we be good without God” by Robert Buchman there is a direct correlation between high religiosity and the willingness to comit acts of violence or to kill in the name of that belief.
In short, religious extrmists are the problem, irregardless of the religion.
Which makes me happy I have no religion.
And what about the crazy Rabbi? Genocide? You would think that after the Holocaust, rabbi’s would be kinda anti-genocide, but who knows these days?
“Mike, an atheist, is voicing his relief that atheists are not prone to fits of religious rage. I thought that was fairly clear.”
This sloppy generalizing sure makes for some pointless non-discussion.
I thought it was “fairly clear” that by putting the little
blinky smiley face that I was kidding.
Mike you have found one example of Christians leading a riot over public executions and therefore you have come to the conclusion that Christianity is just as prone to terrorism and Islam. Sorta like I saw a pig flying over my house today. Never seen that before in my entire life but I must conclude from that, that pigs are just as likely to fly as geese. Correct?
“This sloppy generalizing sure makes for some pointless non-discussion.”
Are you describing Stageleft’s original post?
Peter…Jeff is NOT a role model. You can do better.
[...] I very rarely read Michelle Malkin, and I wouldn’t have read her tonight if a reader hadn’t sent me this link…. unless I’m mistaken these are some of the christians she’s talking about. [...]
Came to this blog post late, but here goes: CS seems like one of those home-schooled kids who never got assessed or treated before he or she was graduated or let loose in society.
He or she may have been let loose too early, and never truly bonded with adults, hence the repeated reference to basic body functions. In fact, CS displays the traits of trapped animals (monkeys & apes most noticeably) who regularly hurl their only self-made weapons at intruders.
Obviously he or she has some sort of handicap which precludes him or her signing up for service of his or her country at war.
Sooner or later someone will notice him or her and administer the proper medicine which will make him or her a soldier lobbing bombs instead of his or her miraculously appearing body excretions.
That will smarten CS up in a hurry, I think.
Someone will come along and sign him or her up to the Con party and he or she will finally find a place to belong. The crap hurling habit might be hard to break, and his or her handlers might begin to reach our to CS and attempt to teach aim. Attempt. Draft the monkey. It’s a start.
“Someone will come along and sign him or her up to the Con party.”
You may not have noticed, but he’s already a Blogging Tory. AND recently nominated for the Best Conservative Blog at Robert’s CBA!